Discussion:
IOs 8 release and accessibility.
Pablo Morales
2014-09-22 23:26:50 UTC
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Hello all.

Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the
accessibility in IOs 8.

But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this
topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related
with accessibility on IOs 8.

Any body knows where can I read something about this?

Thanks in advance.

Pablo
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Gail the U. S. Male
2014-09-22 23:27:45 UTC
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http://www.applevis.com
has posted some stuff about ios8 and accessability
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Subject: IOs 8 release and accessibility.


Hello all.

Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the accessibility in IOs 8.

But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related with accessibility on IOs 8.

Any body knows where can I read something about this?

Thanks in advance.

Pablo




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Alex Hall
2014-09-22 23:30:58 UTC
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Specifically, here's the link to the blog post detailing the new features:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy-apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news/what%E2%80%99s-new-ios-8-accessibility-blind-low
Post by Gail the U. S. Male
http://www.applevis.com
has posted some stuff about ios8 and accessability
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From: Pablo Morales
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:26 PM
Subject: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
Hello all.
Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the accessibility in IOs 8.
But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related with accessibility on IOs 8.
Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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Anna Byrne
2014-09-24 18:56:00 UTC
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I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my
screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In
Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but
it doesn't speak when the screen is locked. Is this true for
everyone, or am I just special???
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Brian Fischler
2014-09-25 03:58:05 UTC
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Sorry to disappoint you, you are not special, as I am having the problem to, and I think the notifications not being spoken in the lock screen but hearing the notification sound is one of the many many many bugs with VO in IOS8.
I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but it doesn't speak when the screen is locked. Is this true for everyone, or am I just special???
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David Chittenden
2014-09-25 04:58:16 UTC
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Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, and switch on speak notifications.

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Post by Brian Fischler
Sorry to disappoint you, you are not special, as I am having the problem to, and I think the notifications not being spoken in the lock screen but hearing the notification sound is one of the many many many bugs with VO in IOS8.
I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but it doesn't speak when the screen is locked. Is this true for everyone, or am I just special???
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Dave Mitchel
2014-09-25 12:02:01 UTC
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that was done, and had never been changed. it was the update that made it
different.

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Subject: Re: Speak messages on locked screen?

Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, and switch on speak
notifications.

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Post by Brian Fischler
Sorry to disappoint you, you are not special, as I am having the problem
to, and I think the notifications not being spoken in the lock screen but
hearing the notification sound is one of the many many many bugs with VO
in IOS8.
I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my screen
locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In
Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but it
doesn't speak when the screen is locked. Is this true for everyone, or
am I just special???
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David Chittenden
2014-09-25 12:30:48 UTC
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Yes, iOS 8 switched it off.

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that was done, and had never been changed. it was the update that made it different.
-----Original Message----- From: David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Speak messages on locked screen?
Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, and switch on speak notifications.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Post by Brian Fischler
Sorry to disappoint you, you are not special, as I am having the problem to, and I think the notifications not being spoken in the lock screen but hearing the notification sound is one of the many many many bugs with VO in IOS8.
I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but it doesn't speak when the screen is locked. Is this true for everyone, or am I just special???
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Dave Mitchel
2014-09-25 12:58:23 UTC
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I wish it were that simple, but it was still in the on position. just does
not work as it did in 7.1. it randomly selects which texts it will speak and
is not always the same. I thought for a while it was those in my contact
list only, but as I said, it is random. I could deal with that, but it
speaks only about 1 out of 8 .


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Yes, iOS 8 switched it off.

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that was done, and had never been changed. it was the update that made it different.
-----Original Message----- From: David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Speak messages on locked screen?
Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, and switch on speak notifications.
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
Post by Brian Fischler
Sorry to disappoint you, you are not special, as I am having the problem
to, and I think the notifications not being spoken in the lock screen but
hearing the notification sound is one of the many many many bugs with VO
in IOS8.
I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my screen
locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In
Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but it
doesn't speak when the screen is locked. Is this true for everyone, or
am I just special???
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Dave Mitchel
2014-09-25 03:59:48 UTC
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I think it is because you are special, and because of that I too am special!
it is a feature I miss and also cannot get it to work on my 5!


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Subject: Speak messages on locked screen?

I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my
screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In
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Rose Combs
2014-09-25 12:07:58 UTC
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My messages are spoken about 99% of the time.


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I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my
screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In
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Alan Paganelli
2014-09-25 19:32:50 UTC
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Your not alone. My 5s does the same thing.


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I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my
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Cheryl Homiak
2014-09-25 20:00:50 UTC
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I don't think this has anything to do with the setting in settings > general > voiceover at all. Either it is a bug or it has to do with the settings in notifications. There is no longer, as far as I can see, a single setting in Notifications to have them spoken and even if you do "show Notification" for individual notifications they don't always get spoken. It seems like my 6+ is speaking some of them but my 5S isn't but I haven't tracked down the difference if there is one.
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Your not alone. My 5s does the same thing.
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Subject: Speak messages on locked screen?
I O S 8. I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my
screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7. In
Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but
it doesn't speak when the screen is locked. Is this true for
everyone, or am I just special???
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Sieghard Weitzel
2014-09-23 01:50:30 UTC
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Hi Pablo,



There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8
accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly
recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not
download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you
can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.



Furthermore, Jonathan Mosen has just finished a presentation on the
Accessible World Tech Talk. I have pasted his email letting the list know
about it below so you can go and listen to a recording of his presentation.
Anyhow, in short, iOS 8 has some neat new features and some even neater new
bugs. Knowing your reaction after iOS 6 and iOS 7 came out, I think your
decision to stay with iOS 7.1.2 is a good one. Wait until iOS 8.0.1 comes
out and see what fixes are reported on the Viphone list and on Applevis and
then you can see if you want to upgrade or wait a bit longer for more fixes
to happen. Anyhow, here is Jonathan's message:



Hi everyone,

on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk
presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll
discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well
as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their
implications.

There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with
iOS 8 and ask questions.

If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made
available after the event.

You can visit http://accessibleWorld.org <http://accessibleworld.org/> and
navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively, head over
directly to the conference room by choosing this link
<http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2> .

I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative
discussion afterwards.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org



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Hello all.

Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the
accessibility in IOs 8.

But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this
topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related
with accessibility on IOs 8.

Any body knows where can I read something about this?

Thanks in advance.

Pablo
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Krister Ekstrom
2014-09-23 08:20:56 UTC
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Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their implications.
There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with iOS 8 and ask questions.
If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made available after the event.
You can visit http://accessibleWorld.org <http://accessibleworld.org/> and navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively, head over directly to the conference room by choosing this link <http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2>.
I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative discussion afterwards.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:27 PM
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Hello all.
Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the accessibility in IOs 8.
But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related with accessibility on IOs 8.
Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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christopher hallsworth
2014-09-23 20:12:09 UTC
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Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them personally. I love iOS 8!

Sent from my Macbook Pro
Post by Krister Ekstrom
Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their implications.
There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with iOS 8 and ask questions.
If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made available after the event.
You can visit http://accessibleWorld.org and navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively, head over directly to the conference room by choosing this link.
I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative discussion afterwards.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:27 PM
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Hello all.
Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the accessibility in IOs 8.
But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related with accessibility on IOs 8.
Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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Cheryl Homiak
2014-09-23 20:21:40 UTC
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I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love handoff!
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Post by christopher hallsworth
Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them personally. I love iOS 8!
Sent from my Macbook Pro
Post by Krister Ekstrom
Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their implications.
There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with iOS 8 and ask questions.
If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made available after the event.
You can visit http://accessibleWorld.org and navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively, head over directly to the conference room by choosing this link.
I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative discussion afterwards.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:27 PM
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Hello all.
Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the accessibility in IOs 8.
But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related with accessibility on IOs 8.
Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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christopher hallsworth
2014-09-23 20:23:46 UTC
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I can get Handoff to work as far as phone calls and hopefully sms messages when it becomes available but that's as far as it goes with me since I have a 4s and so no Airdrop either which Handoff seems to be based on. My favourite features are the new direct touch typing mode and Braille Screen Input. Makes typing less of a chore now. I also love the new Alex voice but can only get that on my iPad Mini of course.

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Post by Cheryl Homiak
I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love handoff!
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Post by christopher hallsworth
Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them personally. I love iOS 8!
Sent from my Macbook Pro
Post by Krister Ekstrom
Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their implications.
There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with iOS 8 and ask questions.
If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made available after the event.
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Pablo
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Pablo Morales
2014-09-23 22:46:21 UTC
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This thing of handoff sound very usable. Even though this direct touch,
doesn't sound so good. I mean, if it is like a regular keyboard, but just
guessing where could be the keys, is like typing in regular touch typing,
because if we touch a key, using touch typing, and leave out our finger,
that key is goint to type a letter any way.

Of course, guessing.



From: ***@googlegroups.com [mailto:***@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:24 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.



I can get Handoff to work as far as phone calls and hopefully sms messages
when it becomes available but that's as far as it goes with me since I have
a 4s and so no Airdrop either which Handoff seems to be based on. My
favourite features are the new direct touch typing mode and Braille Screen
Input. Makes typing less of a chore now. I also love the new Alex voice but
can only get that on my iPad Mini of course.


Sent from my Macbook Pro



On 23 Sep 2014, at 21:21, Cheryl Homiak <***@icloud.com> wrote:





I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love
handoff!
--
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

"This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness."

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)









On Sep 23, 2014, at 3:12 PM, christopher hallsworth
<***@icloud.com> wrote:





Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them
personally. I love iOS 8!


Sent from my Macbook Pro



On 23 Sep 2014, at 09:20, Krister Ekstrom <***@kristersplace.com> wrote:





Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the
negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about
the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?

/Krister



23 sep 2014 kl. 03:50 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <***@live.ca>:



Hi Pablo,



There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8
accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly
recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not
download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you
can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.



Furthermore, Jonathan Mosen has just finished a presentation on the
Accessible World Tech Talk. I have pasted his email letting the list know
about it below so you can go and listen to a recording of his presentation.
Anyhow, in short, iOS 8 has some neat new features and some even neater new
bugs. Knowing your reaction after iOS 6 and iOS 7 came out, I think your
decision to stay with iOS 7.1.2 is a good one. Wait until iOS 8.0.1 comes
out and see what fixes are reported on the Viphone list and on Applevis and
then you can see if you want to upgrade or wait a bit longer for more fixes
to happen. Anyhow, here is Jonathan's message:



Hi everyone,

on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk
presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll
discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well
as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their
implications.

There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with
iOS 8 and ask questions.

If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made
available after the event.

You can visit <http://accessibleworld.org/> http://accessibleWorld.org and
navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively,
<http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2> head over
directly to the conference room by choosing this link.

I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative
discussion afterwards.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

<http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org



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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:27 PM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOs 8 release and accessibility.



Hello all.

Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the
accessibility in IOs 8.

But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this
topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related
with accessibility on IOs 8.

Any body knows where can I read something about this?

Thanks in advance.

Pablo
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Krister Ekstrom
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Has anyone heard any rumors or otherwise that Handoff will not work on older Macs?
/Krister
This thing of handoff sound very usable. Even though this direct touch, doesn't sound so good. I mean, if it is like a regular keyboard, but just guessing where could be the keys, is like typing in regular touch typing, because if we touch a key, using touch typing, and leave out our finger, that key is goint to type a letter any way.
Of course, guessing.
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
I can get Handoff to work as far as phone calls and hopefully sms messages when it becomes available but that's as far as it goes with me since I have a 4s and so no Airdrop either which Handoff seems to be based on. My favourite features are the new direct touch typing mode and Braille Screen Input. Makes typing less of a chore now. I also love the new Alex voice but can only get that on my iPad Mini of course.
Sent from my Macbook Pro
I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love handoff!
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Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them personally. I love iOS 8!
Sent from my Macbook Pro
Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
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Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their implications.
There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with iOS 8 and ask questions.
If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made available after the event.
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I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative discussion afterwards.
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:27 PM
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Hello all.
Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the accessibility in IOs 8.
But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related with accessibility on IOs 8.
Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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alia robinson
2014-09-24 08:37:09 UTC
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No, it won't work on mine. it's too old 2011.

alia
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Has anyone heard any rumors or otherwise that Handoff will not work on older Macs?
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Sieghard Weitzel
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I thought you have to be able to run Yosemite for this to be supported



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Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.



Has anyone heard any rumors or otherwise that Handoff will not work on older
Macs?

/Krister



24 sep 2014 kl. 00:46 skrev Pablo Morales <***@gmail.com
<mailto:***@gmail.com> >:



This thing of handoff sound very usable. Even though this direct touch,
doesn't sound so good. I mean, if it is like a regular keyboard, but just
guessing where could be the keys, is like typing in regular touch typing,
because if we touch a key, using touch typing, and leave out our finger,
that key is goint to type a letter any way.

Of course, guessing.



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[mailto:***@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:24 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.



I can get Handoff to work as far as phone calls and hopefully sms messages
when it becomes available but that's as far as it goes with me since I have
a 4s and so no Airdrop either which Handoff seems to be based on. My
favourite features are the new direct touch typing mode and Braille Screen
Input. Makes typing less of a chore now. I also love the new Alex voice but
can only get that on my iPad Mini of course.


Sent from my Macbook Pro



On 23 Sep 2014, at 21:21, Cheryl Homiak < <mailto:***@icloud.com>
***@icloud.com> wrote:






I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love
handoff!
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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

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Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

"This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness."

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)









On Sep 23, 2014, at 3:12 PM, christopher hallsworth <
<mailto:***@icloud.com> ***@icloud.com> wrote:






Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them
personally. I love iOS 8!


Sent from my Macbook Pro



On 23 Sep 2014, at 09:20, Krister Ekstrom <
<mailto:***@kristersplace.com> ***@kristersplace.com> wrote:






Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the
negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about
the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?

/Krister



23 sep 2014 kl. 03:50 skrev Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:***@live.ca>
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Hi Pablo,



There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8
accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly
recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not
download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you
can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.



Furthermore, Jonathan Mosen has just finished a presentation on the
Accessible World Tech Talk. I have pasted his email letting the list know
about it below so you can go and listen to a recording of his presentation.
Anyhow, in short, iOS 8 has some neat new features and some even neater new
bugs. Knowing your reaction after iOS 6 and iOS 7 came out, I think your
decision to stay with iOS 7.1.2 is a good one. Wait until iOS 8.0.1 comes
out and see what fixes are reported on the Viphone list and on Applevis and
then you can see if you want to upgrade or wait a bit longer for more fixes
to happen. Anyhow, here is Jonathan's message:



Hi everyone,

on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk
presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll
discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well
as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their
implications.

There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with
iOS 8 and ask questions.

If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made
available after the event.

You can visit <http://accessibleworld.org/> http://accessibleWorld.org and
navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively,
<http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2> head over
directly to the conference room by choosing this link.

I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative
discussion afterwards.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

<http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org



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Hello all.

Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the
accessibility in IOs 8.

But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this
topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related
with accessibility on IOs 8.

Any body knows where can I read something about this?

Thanks in advance.

Pablo
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Hi Sieghard, a lot of people are doing this already. It's in public beta and far more stable in that form than the released version of iOS 8.
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Post by Sieghard Weitzel
I thought you have to be able to run Yosemite for this to be supported
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
Has anyone heard any rumors or otherwise that Handoff will not work on older Macs?
/Krister
This thing of handoff sound very usable. Even though this direct touch, doesn't sound so good. I mean, if it is like a regular keyboard, but just guessing where could be the keys, is like typing in regular touch typing, because if we touch a key, using touch typing, and leave out our finger, that key is goint to type a letter any way.
Of course, guessing.
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
I can get Handoff to work as far as phone calls and hopefully sms messages when it becomes available but that's as far as it goes with me since I have a 4s and so no Airdrop either which Handoff seems to be based on. My favourite features are the new direct touch typing mode and Braille Screen Input. Makes typing less of a chore now. I also love the new Alex voice but can only get that on my iPad Mini of course.
Sent from my Macbook Pro
I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love handoff!
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Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them personally. I love iOS 8!
Sent from my Macbook Pro
Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their implications.
There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with iOS 8 and ask questions.
If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made available after the event.
You can visit http://accessibleWorld.org <http://accessibleworld.org/> and navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively, head over directly to the conference room by choosing this link <http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2>.
I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative discussion afterwards.
Jonathan Mosen
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http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:27 PM
Subject: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
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Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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Devin
2014-09-29 00:27:22 UTC
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Oh, its stable now? Hmm, when I first tried it, it was very sluggish.

Sent from my iPad
Post by Jonathan Mosen
Hi Sieghard, a lot of people are doing this already. It's in public beta and far more stable in that form than the released version of iOS 8.
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Post by Sieghard Weitzel
I thought you have to be able to run Yosemite for this to be supported
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
Has anyone heard any rumors or otherwise that Handoff will not work on older Macs?
/Krister
This thing of handoff sound very usable. Even though this direct touch, doesn’t sound so good. I mean, if it is like a regular keyboard, but just guessing where could be the keys, is like typing in regular touch typing, because if we touch a key, using touch typing, and leave out our finger, that key is goint to type a letter any way.
Of course, guessing.
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:24 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
I can get Handoff to work as far as phone calls and hopefully sms messages when it becomes available but that's as far as it goes with me since I have a 4s and so no Airdrop either which Handoff seems to be based on. My favourite features are the new direct touch typing mode and Braille Screen Input. Makes typing less of a chore now. I also love the new Alex voice but can only get that on my iPad Mini of course.
Sent from my Macbook Pro
I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love handoff!
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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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His joy for my despairing tears!
"This I call to mind,
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them personally. I love iOS 8!
Sent from my Macbook Pro
Isn’t it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their implications.
There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with iOS 8 and ask questions.
If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made available after the event.
You can visit http://accessibleWorld.org and navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively, head over directly to the conference room by choosing this link.
I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative discussion afterwards.
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:27 PM
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Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the accessibility in IOs 8.
But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this topic, and I am reading many things, but no about the new things related with accessibility on IOs 8.
Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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Kerri
2014-09-23 21:27:00 UTC
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You and me both, hand off is great. My room mate takes the hone to work with her on Wednesdays and so I have no phone. Now, with IOS8, I answer all the calls on the iPad while she is at work. Love it!

If cats always land on their feet and buttered toast always lands buttered side down, what happens if you dropped a cat that was connected to the buttered toast?
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I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love handoff!
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Post by christopher hallsworth
Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them personally. I love iOS 8!
Sent from my Macbook Pro
Post by Krister Ekstrom
Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?
/Krister
Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,
There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8 accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.
Hi everyone,
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Any body knows where can I read something about this?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
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Steve & Shannon Cook
2014-09-23 23:42:26 UTC
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What is handoff?



Steve and Shannon Cook

Today I married my best friend.

The one that I laugh with, live for, love.

October 11, 2003



From: ***@googlegroups.com [mailto:***@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:22 PM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.



I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love
handoff!
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

"This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness."

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)









On Sep 23, 2014, at 3:12 PM, christopher hallsworth
<***@icloud.com> wrote:





Tell me about it! I'm just glancing at them but just deal with them
personally. I love iOS 8!


Sent from my Macbook Pro



On 23 Sep 2014, at 09:20, Krister Ekstrom <***@kristersplace.com> wrote:





Isn't it strange how when a new Ios comes out we always focus on the
negative stuff about it? It makes me wonder how many posts there are about
the Ios features compared to how many posts complaining about the bugs?

/Krister



23 sep 2014 kl. 03:50 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <***@live.ca>:



Hi Pablo,



There are also at least 2 or 3 Podcasts on Applevis which are about iOS 8
accessibility and iOS 8 bugs. If you have a Podcast client I highly
recommend you subscribe to the Applevis podcast, you can set it to not
download any Podcasts, but this way you get to see what they release and you
can either stream or download any podcasts you want to listen to.



Furthermore, Jonathan Mosen has just finished a presentation on the
Accessible World Tech Talk. I have pasted his email letting the list know
about it below so you can go and listen to a recording of his presentation.
Anyhow, in short, iOS 8 has some neat new features and some even neater new
bugs. Knowing your reaction after iOS 6 and iOS 7 came out, I think your
decision to stay with iOS 7.1.2 is a good one. Wait until iOS 8.0.1 comes
out and see what fixes are reported on the Viphone list and on Applevis and
then you can see if you want to upgrade or wait a bit longer for more fixes
to happen. Anyhow, here is Jonathan's message:



Hi everyone,

on Monday 22 September at 8 PM Eastern US time, I'll be giving a Tek Talk
presentation on the free Accessible World chat site about iOS 8. I'll
discuss some of the new features in iOS 8 and demonstrate their use, as well
as look at the high number of significant bugs in iOS 8 and their
implications.

There'll also be plenty of time for you to share your own experiences with
iOS 8 and ask questions.

If you're not available to attend the event live, a download will be made
available after the event.

You can visit <http://accessibleworld.org/> http://accessibleWorld.org and
navigate to the Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room. Alternatively,
<http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2> head over
directly to the conference room by choosing this link.

I'm looking forward to sharing some info with you and to an informative
discussion afterwards.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

<http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org



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Hello all.

Days ago, I saw an email, talking about the new things related with the
accessibility in IOs 8.

But I have found around 395 emails with the same subject talking about this
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with accessibility on IOs 8.

Any body knows where can I read something about this?

Thanks in advance.

Pablo
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Christopher Hallsworth
2014-09-28 11:09:17 UTC
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Handoff allows you to start something on one device and continue it on
another.


Sent from my laptop
Post by Steve & Shannon Cook
What is handoff?
Steve and Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend.
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: IOs 8 release and accessibility.
I know there are bugs, but I am truly enjoying this iOS. I really love handoff!
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