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Battery issues with new iPhone 8
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Mary Otten
2018-10-20 19:38:35 UTC
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I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
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Richard Turner
2018-10-20 19:43:58 UTC
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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

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I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
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Mary Otten
2018-10-20 20:28:44 UTC
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He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.
I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.
HTH,
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Richard Turner
2018-10-20 21:03:00 UTC
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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
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Post by Mary Otten
He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.
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Post by Richard Turner
Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.
I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.
HTH,
Richard
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Mary
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Mary Otten
2018-10-20 22:39:43 UTC
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I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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Post by Richard Turner
I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard
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Post by Mary Otten
He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.
Sent from my iPhone
Post by Richard Turner
Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.
I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.
HTH,
Richard
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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary
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Post by Richard Turner
I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard
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Post by Mary Otten
He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.
Sent from my iPhone
Post by Richard Turner
Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.
I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.
HTH,
Richard
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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.

From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 7:51 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


Sent from my iPhone


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

HTH,
Richard



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2018-10-21 07:49:12 UTC
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It is not on by default. After upgrading you then have the option to configure it.

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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.

From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 7:51 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


Sent from my iPhone


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

HTH,
Richard



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Hi, that is what i said.

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It is not on by default. After upgrading you then have the option to configure it.

Andy

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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.

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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com> wrote:

I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com> wrote:

I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com> wrote:

Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

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Richard



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I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
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Well I've been using iOS 12 ever since it was available for beta testers and I never got an option to set it up later. So it was on by default for me.

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Hi, that is what i said.
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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Battery issues with new iPhone 8
It is not on by default. After upgrading you then have the option to configure it.
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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.
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I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
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Post by Mary Otten
He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.
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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.
I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.
HTH,
Richard
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I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
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Sieghard Weitzel
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Hi Shawn,

I also must disagree here, you probably turned it on at some point early in the beta cycle and forgot and it is of course also entirely possible that in the final public release this was changed, but everybody else who says it is not on by default is correct, instead you are asked during the setup of iOS 12 if you want to turn it on just like you are asked if you want to enable SIRI or turn on location services.
As Richard pointed out, often people say Yes to things or tap on “Turn On” because they think if things are on it’s better than if when they are off and they don’t even register what they are turning on.

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Well I've been using iOS 12 ever since it was available for beta testers and I never got an option to set it up later. So it was on by default for me.

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Hi, that is what i said.

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It is not on by default. After upgrading you then have the option to configure it.

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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.

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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

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matthew dyer
2018-10-21 19:05:30 UTC
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One thing your friend will want to check as well is make sure Bluetooth is off if your not using it. I find that after an update on every ios device I have used that Bluetooth is enabled and I have to disable it.

HTH.

Matthew



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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 1:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

Hi Shawn,

I also must disagree here, you probably turned it on at some point early in the beta cycle and forgot and it is of course also entirely possible that in the final public release this was changed, but everybody else who says it is not on by default is correct, instead you are asked during the setup of iOS 12 if you want to turn it on just like you are asked if you want to enable SIRI or turn on location services.
As Richard pointed out, often people say Yes to things or tap on “Turn On” because they think if things are on it’s better than if when they are off and they don’t even register what they are turning on.

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Sieghard


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Well I've been using iOS 12 ever since it was available for beta testers and I never got an option to set it up later. So it was on by default for me.

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On Oct 21, 2018, at 2:55 AM, Dave <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, that is what i said.

Dave.


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It is not on by default. After upgrading you then have the option to configure it.

Andy

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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.

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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com<mailto:***@outlook.com>> wrote:

I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

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Richard



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I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
Mary


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Sieghard Weitzel
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Bluetooth uses such a tiny amount of battery power that it is quite safe to leave it on. Of course if you never ever use any bluetooth devices then by all means turn it off, but I have an Apple Watch, occasionally want to use my bluetooth keyboard or bluetooth speaker/headset and I just don’t want to have to turn it on each time I need it. I wonder how many people turn off WiFi when they go out for a while, it certainly uses a lot more battery than bluetooth if it’s on and you are not using it.

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From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 12:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

One thing your friend will want to check as well is make sure Bluetooth is off if your not using it. I find that after an update on every ios device I have used that Bluetooth is enabled and I have to disable it.

HTH.

Matthew



From: ***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com> <***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
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Hi Shawn,

I also must disagree here, you probably turned it on at some point early in the beta cycle and forgot and it is of course also entirely possible that in the final public release this was changed, but everybody else who says it is not on by default is correct, instead you are asked during the setup of iOS 12 if you want to turn it on just like you are asked if you want to enable SIRI or turn on location services.
As Richard pointed out, often people say Yes to things or tap on “Turn On” because they think if things are on it’s better than if when they are off and they don’t even register what they are turning on.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Well I've been using iOS 12 ever since it was available for beta testers and I never got an option to set it up later. So it was on by default for me.

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Hi, that is what i said.

Dave.


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It is not on by default. After upgrading you then have the option to configure it.

Andy

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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.

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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com<mailto:***@outlook.com>> wrote:

I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com<mailto:***@outlook.com>> wrote:

Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

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Richard



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Subject: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
Mary


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My cousin does. I thought she was nuts.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 3:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

Bluetooth uses such a tiny amount of battery power that it is quite safe to leave it on. Of course if you never ever use any bluetooth devices then by all means turn it off, but I have an Apple Watch, occasionally want to use my bluetooth keyboard or bluetooth speaker/headset and I just don’t want to have to turn it on each time I need it. I wonder how many people turn off WiFi when they go out for a while, it certainly uses a lot more battery than bluetooth if it’s on and you are not using it.



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Sieghard



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One thing your friend will want to check as well is make sure Bluetooth is off if your not using it. I find that after an update on every ios device I have used that Bluetooth is enabled and I have to disable it.



HTH.



Matthew







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Hi Shawn,



I also must disagree here, you probably turned it on at some point early in the beta cycle and forgot and it is of course also entirely possible that in the final public release this was changed, but everybody else who says it is not on by default is correct, instead you are asked during the setup of iOS 12 if you want to turn it on just like you are asked if you want to enable SIRI or turn on location services.

As Richard pointed out, often people say Yes to things or tap on “Turn On” because they think if things are on it’s better than if when they are off and they don’t even register what they are turning on.



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Sieghard





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Well I've been using iOS 12 ever since it was available for beta testers and I never got an option to set it up later. So it was on by default for me.



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Hi, that is what i said.



Dave.





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It is not on by default. After upgrading you then have the option to configure it.



Andy



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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.



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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:



I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com <mailto:***@outlook.com> > wrote:

I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

HTH,
Richard



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Subject: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
Mary


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Carolyn Arnold
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Screen Time was on on mine, but I turned it off. I did not turn it on. It must have come with the update to 12.

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I think it gives you the option to set up later, after updating.

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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

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It was definitely not on after I upgraded to iOS 12. There was an offer to set it up, which I declined. And it’s not on. I wonder why it’s different for different people.


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I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
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Post by Mary Otten
He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.
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Post by Richard Turner
Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.
I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.
HTH,
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I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
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In my experience, especially with iOS, people don’t always catch what is said and accidently turn things like Screen Time on or think they have to use a passcode because they missed the passcode options button, when updating.
iOS is the most consistent operating system I’ve ever dealt with so these kinds of variations are usually user created.

This could be called a PBCAS, (Problem between Chair And Screen) grin.

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It was definitely not on after I upgraded to iOS 12. There was an offer to set it up, which I declined. And it’s not on. I wonder why it’s different for different people.

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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

HTH,
Richard



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I call it G I G O, it was what my computer science professor used to say back in the day of 5.25 inch floppy disks and 40 Megabyte hard drives (about 1989) and it means “Garbage In Garbage Out”

From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 9:06 AM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

In my experience, especially with iOS, people don’t always catch what is said and accidently turn things like Screen Time on or think they have to use a passcode because they missed the passcode options button, when updating.
iOS is the most consistent operating system I’ve ever dealt with so these kinds of variations are usually user created.

This could be called a PBCAS, (Problem between Chair And Screen) grin.

Richard


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From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:45 AM
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Subject: Re: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

It was definitely not on after I upgraded to iOS 12. There was an offer to set it up, which I declined. And it’s not on. I wonder why it’s different for different people.
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 20, 2018, at 11:51 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone <***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com<mailto:***@outlook.com>> wrote:

I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com<mailto:***@outlook.com>> wrote:

Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

HTH,
Richard



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From: ***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com> <***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:39 PM
To: ***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com>; ***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
Mary


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G I G O certainly fits as well. I have not heard that since the 1980s.
I modified Problem between Keyboard and Chair that I heard many years ago from a computer tech support person to fit the smart devices 


Richard



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From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:22 AM
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Subject: RE: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

I call it G I G O, it was what my computer science professor used to say back in the day of 5.25 inch floppy disks and 40 Megabyte hard drives (about 1989) and it means “Garbage In Garbage Out”

From: ***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com> <***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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In my experience, especially with iOS, people don’t always catch what is said and accidently turn things like Screen Time on or think they have to use a passcode because they missed the passcode options button, when updating.
iOS is the most consistent operating system I’ve ever dealt with so these kinds of variations are usually user created.

This could be called a PBCAS, (Problem between Chair And Screen) grin.

Richard


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From: ***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com> <***@googlegroups.com<mailto:***@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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It was definitely not on after I upgraded to iOS 12. There was an offer to set it up, which I declined. And it’s not on. I wonder why it’s different for different people.
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Hi. Screen time is on by default when you upgrade to iOS 12. So if he doesn't know that, it is on.

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

I recall seeing an article somewhere that screen time actually does eat some. But it’s off by default when you get the phone, and I’m quite sure he did not turn it on. Why the heck would you? Well I guess that answers obvious. But anyway, I’m sure his is off, and I suspect you were right about getting a replacement.
Mary


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com<mailto:***@outlook.com>> wrote:

I doubt Screen time would eat that much, but I turned it off as I could care less about my personal screen time.
But, if he is losing that much over night at this point, he needs to talk with Apple about a replacement.
That is crazy. My iPhone SE hardly loses anything over night.
Nor, my 8 plus for work.
Richard



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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Mary Otten <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

He says he updated to 12.01 about a week ago, and does have background refresh off.


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On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com<mailto:***@outlook.com>> wrote:

Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

HTH,
Richard



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Subject: Battery issues with new iPhone 8

I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
Mary


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Sieghard Weitzel
2018-10-21 05:18:03 UTC
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There can be situations where some app may have been corrupted in some way where it may use cellular or WiFi in the background and Resetting Network Settings can help in that it may force such an app or process to be terminated.
If a reboot or Reset Network Settings doesn't help doing a complete reset of the phone is the next step, best to have a backup, but first set up as a new phone and observe for a day or two if all is well, then restore the backup. If the problem comes back then whatever the problem is was part of the backup and then another reset is in order, this time the phone needs to be again set up as a new phone and your friend has to start from scratch, download apps, put back any content manually etc.
Maybe you recall how Mario was bitterly complaining that iOS 12 ruined the battery life on his iPhone SE and he mentioned some other issues also which I don't recall. Eventually he did a complete restore and set up as a new device and he reported that all was well after that. I know it's sucks and can be a lot of work depending on how many apps one has and how much stuff otherwise, but it is what it is.

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Making sure to turn off background app refresh, screen time, WiFi Assist under Cellular, anything else that might be doing stuff behind the scenes.
I know you said he doesn't have any apps running, but he should turn off the background app refresh anyway and see how things go.

I'm going to assume this wasn't right after updating to iOS 12.0.1, because as others have noted, the battery drain can be large for the first day or two after an update.

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I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
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