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How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
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Kevin Chao
2016-01-24 23:35:19 UTC
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Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Brett
2016-01-25 01:17:01 UTC
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I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when walking around with my cane in the other hand.

iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.

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Rajmund
2016-01-25 07:23:52 UTC
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Paul Hunt
2016-01-25 12:46:26 UTC
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Hello everybody.
I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
1. How do I recalibrate?
2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much.
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Tim Emmons
2016-01-25 15:37:27 UTC
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
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'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
2016-01-25 16:59:52 UTC
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!

I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
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Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
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Arnold Schmidt
2016-01-26 00:23:33 UTC
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I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.

A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.

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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!

I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.

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Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?



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Richard Turner
2016-01-26 01:25:17 UTC
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I too prefer mBraille over the Apple braille keyboard.
It is worth the price and time to learn given all it can do.
Richard


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I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
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Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
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Gordan Radić
2016-01-26 08:28:44 UTC
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'RobH.' via VIPhone
2016-01-26 07:34:52 UTC
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keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.

R.
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I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.

A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.

Arnold Schmidt
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To: ***@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!

I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <***@gmail.com> wrote:


o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.

On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <***@gmail.com> wrote:



Hello,

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Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.

Cheers, Brett.


Sent from Brett's iPhone
Post by 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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How recently have you tried it as a third-party keyboard? If very recently,
then I regret your bad experience. I, too, had thought I had wasted my
money on the third-party keyboard option, until I tried it again last
weekend. I don't know what made the difference, an MBraille or IOS update,
but it works well now for me. I am running it on an iPhone 6, with IOS
9.2.1. I do need to learn more about the Apple braille keyboard, just to
have another alternative.

Arnold Schmidt
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen
Input?


Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it
before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and
does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party
keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely
no support from the author at all.

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never
works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your
intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your
money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were
free.

Cheers, Brett.


Sent from Brett's iPhone
Post by 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of
this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but
worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more
flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so
I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille,
although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of
MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to
use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party
keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend
when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never
used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard
button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into
MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers
onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a
three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more
copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.
I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor!
Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is
easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of
the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing
that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and
IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to
IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which
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Hi,

I first tried it to write this email, but couldn't dismiss the keyboard as usual, so had to close the mail app from the app switcher and had to write this using iOS braille.

Cheers
Brett.

Sent from Brett's iPhone
How recently have you tried it as a third-party keyboard? If very recently, then I regret your bad experience. I, too, had thought I had wasted my money on the third-party keyboard option, until I tried it again last weekend. I don't know what made the difference, an MBraille or IOS update, but it works well now for me. I am running it on an iPhone 6, with IOS 9.2.1. I do need to learn more about the Apple braille keyboard, just to have another alternative.
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
Post by 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message ----- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Hi Bret. I'm sorry you've had a negative experience with the MBraille app. I use it on a daily basis and love it. There is a learning curve, but I've found that the more I work with it the more I like it. I am on the MBraille email list and find that when I've had questions I get help and support from others. The developer, Harry Pasaman, is also on the list and is very much in touch. BTW, I probably spelled Harry's name incorrectly.) If you are an avid Braille user I encourage you to continue working with the app.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

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Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.

Cheers, Brett.


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Post by 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some
of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of working
than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
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Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released,
so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a
third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last
weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I decided
to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used,
and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It works well. Now,
when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and
although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a
bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that
are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I
quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut
and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is
helpful! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad
and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the
Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Hi,

I haven't given up on it yet. I do want it to work because of its extra features, like being able to read what you have written without having to dispiss the keyboard.

I am on the MBraille email list and have made Harry aware of the spellcheck feature not working in the thirdparty keyboard and the three fingger swipe right never dismissing the keyboard, but I have not received a helpbul reply from him. For me the issue of not being able to dismiss the keyboard has existed ever since the thirdparty keyboard became an option and has never been resolved.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the next update makes the app actually usable.

Cheers,
Brett.


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Post by Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi Bret. I'm sorry you've had a negative experience with the MBraille app. I use it on a daily basis and love it. There is a learning curve, but I've found that the more I work with it the more I like it. I am on the MBraille email list and find that when I've had questions I get help and support from others. The developer, Harry Pasaman, is also on the list and is very much in touch. BTW, I probably spelled Harry's name incorrectly.) If you are an avid Braille user I encourage you to continue working with the app.
God bless!
Paula and Boston
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
Post by 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some
of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of working
than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released,
so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a
third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last
weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I decided
to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used,
and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It works well. Now,
when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and
although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a
bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that
are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I
quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut
and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is
helpful! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad
and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the
Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Cheryl Lenartiene
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Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!


Cheryl
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Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
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Post by 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
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Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
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Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.



Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three fingers instead of swiping.

I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I could is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping with three fingers.

I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly. I think of it as a glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table. I’ve never had any problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard. I use an iPhone 6 and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.

I have not had access to a 6s plus. I didn’t know it had the split screen view like iPads.



Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille keyboard? Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for the dots?

That is just a wild guess.



Richard





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Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?



Hi,

I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.

Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.

Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on the right.

If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.

Thanks!







Cheryl

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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

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On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.

Cheers, Brett.


Sent from Brett's iPhone




On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <***@googlegroups.com <mailto:***@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of

working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a

hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.



R.

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Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?





I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple

keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator

incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the

regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.



A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well

for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I

decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It

works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is

occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do

any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,

and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my

text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.



Arnold Schmidt

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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM

Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?





Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is

more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!



I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other

keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open

the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper

key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the

rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient

with anything other than this.



If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P

Sent from my iPhone using MBraille



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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for

the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable

tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.



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Hello,



uncontracted, table top, UEB.







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Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?







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Hi Richard,
I appreciate your suggestions. I am a very experienced iPhone user, and I don't have any trouble with swiping or scrolling, except when it comes to dismissing the MBraille keyboard. I also don't have trouble typing in MBraille proper. My issues are only with the third party keyboard functionality. I've done all the usual troubleshooting steps, making sure the keyboard was enabled and full access was on, reinstalling the app, cycling power, and so on. Like Brett, I've had trouble dismissing the keyboard since the feature was first introduced. However, my keyboard input problems just started with the 6S Plus. Although I had trouble dismissing the keyboard on my 5C, I could at least type with it.
I appreciate the suggestion of dealing with the split screen. However, as soon as I manipulate the phone even slightly to get into position to type, the iPhone alternates between split screen and normal view, and the keyboard is dismissed. So still stumped on this one.


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Post by Richard Turner
First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.
Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three fingers instead of swiping.
I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I could is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping with three fingers.
I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly. I think of it as a glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table. I’ve never had any problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard. I use an iPhone 6 and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.
I have not had access to a 6s plus. I didn’t know it had the split screen view like iPads.
Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille keyboard? Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for the dots?
That is just a wild guess.
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!
Cheryl
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Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
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Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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That is quite the puzzle.
Have you tried locking the orientation?
I hope you can get it sorted out.
It is a fabulous app.
Richard
Post by Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi Richard,
I appreciate your suggestions. I am a very experienced iPhone user, and I don't have any trouble with swiping or scrolling, except when it comes to dismissing the MBraille keyboard. I also don't have trouble typing in MBraille proper. My issues are only with the third party keyboard functionality. I've done all the usual troubleshooting steps, making sure the keyboard was enabled and full access was on, reinstalling the app, cycling power, and so on. Like Brett, I've had trouble dismissing the keyboard since the feature was first introduced. However, my keyboard input problems just started with the 6S Plus. Although I had trouble dismissing the keyboard on my 5C, I could at least type with it.
I appreciate the suggestion of dealing with the split screen. However, as soon as I manipulate the phone even slightly to get into position to type, the iPhone alternates between split screen and normal view, and the keyboard is dismissed. So still stumped on this one.
Cheryl
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Post by Richard Turner
First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.
Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three fingers instead of swiping.
I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I could is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping with three fingers.
I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly. I think of it as a glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table. I’ve never had any problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard. I use an iPhone 6 and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.
I have not had access to a 6s plus. I didn’t know it had the split screen view like iPads.
Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille keyboard? Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for the dots?
That is just a wild guess.
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!
Cheryl
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Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
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Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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2016-01-27 07:27:11 UTC
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I am not quite sure where your problem lies either but am trying things out here since I'm now puzzled about your settings also as I'm using a 6 s with the Dird Party keyboard enabled and all options have "Yes"
I'm not giving up though and will remember to come back to you if I think I may have found you a solution. I agree, it's the best way to braille, when things are working properly, with the most options available. I'm not giving up though and will remember to come back to you if I think I may have found you a solution! Carol P
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On 27 Jan 2016, at 4:52 am, Richard Turner <***@outlook.com> wrote:


That is quite the puzzle.
Have you tried locking the orientation?
I hope you can get it sorted out.
It is a fabulous app.
Richard
Post by Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi Richard,
I appreciate your suggestions. I am a very experienced iPhone user, and I don't have any trouble with swiping or scrolling, except when it comes to dismissing the MBraille keyboard. I also don't have trouble typing in MBraille proper. My issues are only with the third party keyboard functionality. I've done all the usual troubleshooting steps, making sure the keyboard was enabled and full access was on, reinstalling the app, cycling power, and so on. Like Brett, I've had trouble dismissing the keyboard since the feature was first introduced. However, my keyboard input problems just started with the 6S Plus. Although I had trouble dismissing the keyboard on my 5C, I could at least type with it.
I appreciate the suggestion of dealing with the split screen. However, as soon as I manipulate the phone even slightly to get into position to type, the iPhone alternates between split screen and normal view, and the keyboard is dismissed. So still stumped on this one.
Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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Sent from my iPhone
Post by Richard Turner
First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.
Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three fingers instead of swiping.
I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I could is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping with three fingers.
I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly. I think of it as a glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table. I’ve never had any problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard. I use an iPhone 6 and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.
I have not had access to a 6s plus. I didn’t know it had the split screen view like iPads.
Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille keyboard? Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for the dots?
That is just a wild guess.
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!
Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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Sent from my iPhone
Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
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Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.I am pondering over your message but haven't found a solution yet, except that I notice, on my 6 s I have MBraille fully optimised to use as a Third Party keyboard, but I don't have a split screen. I can definitely swipe right after completing my text, then go back to Braille keyboard. I am just trying to recall where that split stcreen is" ...
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Cheryl Lenartiene
2016-01-28 01:14:36 UTC
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Hi all,
I appreciate everyone's suggestions and ongoing detective work. I will try locking the orientation to see if that makes a difference.
I seem to remember that one of the advantages of the Plus phones, as well as the iPad, was that one could use Piano layout in landscape mode and still have access to part of the screen, which would be useful in sending iMessages and e-mails. In portrait orientation, the Piano layout takes up the full screen. I was hoping to be able to take advantage of this feature in landscape at some point, but for me, at least, there is a learning curve with the Piano layout, and I have precious little time these days. I try to keep up with demands and use whatever gets the job done in the most efficient manner at the moment.
I'll try to post in the next day or so with an update. Hopefully, others will find it helpful.


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Hi!
I use MBraille since it was released and I'm also in the beta testing team.
I tested the built-in keyboard some months ago when it was introduced and I wasn't happy about it. It worked, than it didn't , than it again did and so on. Finally, I removed the keyboard from Settings and continued to use it as before.
Yesterday I was reading here that keyboard has improoved and I re-enabled it but aftera try or two I wasn't satisfied. First thing to happen was the new message alert while I was typing the message. It completely blocked the keyboard. After that I played a bit more and noticed the almost same issues as it had before. If I dismiss it i got the conversation without an edit field or if I switch keyboard to Apples virtual there's no input text.
Regarding your problem, since I also use 6S Plus I can only recommend to lock it in Portrait and to use fixed Away mode in MBraille, this way you won't experience the split screens.
Regarding everything else, I went back to MBraille as an app, I use copy paste with Home button and dot commands to achieve texts and e-mails which is more or less enough for my needs. If I need a quick reply to text or something from the lock screen I use VO Braille Input and somehow I'm succeeding in writing something on iPhone xD.
P.S. You can't use MBraille KB from the lock screen, I tried it yesterday and the MBraille is not in the Next Keyboard list while there.
S poštovanjem
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Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!
Cheryl
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Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
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Post by 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
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From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Hi Cheryl,

I'm sending a copy of this to Harri, because I do believe there are
buggy situations that need us to look more closely.

Harri may want to formulate some tasks for each of us to try out to help
to squash (improve) this one. You certainly can mess things up quite
easily ... so I just try to follow my pattern and for me it's OK, most
of the time.

Read on for what I write in your circumstances, Cheryl:

I too find it more difficult to type on the 6S must my most comfortable
position is to hold the phone with thumbs and little fingers on the
edges, near to the corners. In this way you get to write with fingers a
little more comfortably, I think. I also use the "away" mode exclusively
as nothing else really works for me, though I play with others and can
manage tabletop if I'm lying back in a chair. I find piano just too
close and, if you use edges of the sreen, to try to keep your fingers in
order, this doesn't work well for me without any dots to guide and I
don't have any on my 6S. Again, if one could indicate where you want to
place the fingers, it may work a little better.

I also changed one of the new settings, which is for away" mode to
ensure the home button stays on the right. In all other circumstances I
work in locked portrait mode and don't alter it when using mBraille. I
don't have a split screen.

I have been trying to carry out a few tests and, though I can't work out
a pattern right now as I'm not well and struggling to write anything, I
am nevertheless convinced that it does depend on which you load first
and/or what you're writing into with mBraille as to the results you get.

Perhaps Harri may want to take a closer look at this.

For me, I'm happy enough, knowing I don't have a split screen (usually
anyway) and, when things don't work right, I just take both apps out of
the switcher and that's usually sufficient.

I hope this helps a bit.

Please return my receipt or come back to me to let me know you have both
seen this as my desktop doesn't allow me to indicate (as with the phone)
that I wish to see responses to certain threads.

Carol P
Post by Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three
fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an
underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I
swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love
to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the
inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of
what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I
use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too
small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions,
and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For
example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a
text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille
keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away
from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to
the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on
the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues,
I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party
keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!
Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB
Sent from my iPhone
Post by Brett
Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I
bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app
it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille,
but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have
purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard
never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously,
if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't
waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support
from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
Post by Richard Turner
On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky
some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe,
but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's
no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was
released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is
MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability
of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for
me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a
third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last
weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I
never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next
keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into
MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my
fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a
three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No
more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that
is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a
bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it
is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the
disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on
the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only
thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad
and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come
close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in
which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Hi Carol,

Thank you so much for your suggestions! I have locked my phone in portrait orientation, and that has improved performance. However, my hands are small, and I have found that unless I keep my hands exactly centered on the phone, I don't hit all of the dots with all of my fingers. In other words, I could be hitting dot 2 with both my index and middle fingers, instead of dots one and two, because the rectangles for the dots are quite a bit larger on the 6S plus then on the 5C.. For this reason, I do find the native Braille screen input a little easier. The fact that I can calibrate the dots is a big help, because it accommodates my smaller fingers. I will keep practicing, though, and I will try holding my phone in the way you suggest. Hopefully it will help.


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Hi Cheryl,
I'm sending a copy of this to Harri, because I do believe there are buggy situations that need us to look more closely.
Harri may want to formulate some tasks for each of us to try out to help to squash (improve) this one. You certainly can mess things up quite easily ... so I just try to follow my pattern and for me it's OK, most of the time.
I too find it more difficult to type on the 6S must my most comfortable position is to hold the phone with thumbs and little fingers on the edges, near to the corners. In this way you get to write with fingers a little more comfortably, I think. I also use the "away" mode exclusively as nothing else really works for me, though I play with others and can manage tabletop if I'm lying back in a chair. I find piano just too close and, if you use edges of the sreen, to try to keep your fingers in order, this doesn't work well for me without any dots to guide and I don't have any on my 6S. Again, if one could indicate where you want to place the fingers, it may work a little better.
I also changed one of the new settings, which is for away" mode to ensure the home button stays on the right. In all other circumstances I work in locked portrait mode and don't alter it when using mBraille. I don't have a split screen.
I have been trying to carry out a few tests and, though I can't work out a pattern right now as I'm not well and struggling to write anything, I am nevertheless convinced that it does depend on which you load first and/or what you're writing into with mBraille as to the results you get.
Perhaps Harri may want to take a closer look at this.
For me, I'm happy enough, knowing I don't have a split screen (usually anyway) and, when things don't work right, I just take both apps out of the switcher and that's usually sufficient.
I hope this helps a bit.
Please return my receipt or come back to me to let me know you have both seen this as my desktop doesn't allow me to indicate (as with the phone) that I wish to see responses to certain threads.
Carol P
Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!
Cheryl
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Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
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keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
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Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
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Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Cheryl,

Glad that has helped a little.

I still find it a little too big for me so have to write a little slower
than I'd like ...

I am wondering whether we'd be better to play on with piano mode. I'll
do that and come back to you if I have anything positive to say.

Carol P
Post by Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi Carol,
Thank you so much for your suggestions! I have locked my phone in
portrait orientation, and that has improved performance. However, my
hands are small, and I have found that unless I keep my hands exactly
centered on the phone, I don't hit all of the dots with all of my
fingers. In other words, I could be hitting dot 2 with both my index
and middle fingers, instead of dots one and two, because the
rectangles for the dots are quite a bit larger on the 6S plus then on
the 5C.. For this reason, I do find the native Braille screen input a
little easier. The fact that I can calibrate the dots is a big help,
because it accommodates my smaller fingers. I will keep practicing,
though, and I will try holding my phone in the way you suggest.
Hopefully it will help.
Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
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Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 28, 2016, at 3:18 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Hi Cheryl,
I'm sending a copy of this to Harri, because I do believe there are
buggy situations that need us to look more closely.
Harri may want to formulate some tasks for each of us to try out to
help to squash (improve) this one. You certainly can mess things up
quite easily ... so I just try to follow my pattern and for me it's
OK, most of the time.
I too find it more difficult to type on the 6S must my most
comfortable position is to hold the phone with thumbs and little
fingers on the edges, near to the corners. In this way you get to
write with fingers a little more comfortably, I think. I also use the
"away" mode exclusively as nothing else really works for me, though I
play with others and can manage tabletop if I'm lying back in a
chair. I find piano just too close and, if you use edges of the
sreen, to try to keep your fingers in order, this doesn't work well
for me without any dots to guide and I don't have any on my 6S.
Again, if one could indicate where you want to place the fingers, it
may work a little better.
I also changed one of the new settings, which is for away" mode to
ensure the home button stays on the right. In all other circumstances
I work in locked portrait mode and don't alter it when using
mBraille. I don't have a split screen.
I have been trying to carry out a few tests and, though I can't work
out a pattern right now as I'm not well and struggling to write
anything, I am nevertheless convinced that it does depend on which
you load first and/or what you're writing into with mBraille as to
the results you get.
Perhaps Harri may want to take a closer look at this.
For me, I'm happy enough, knowing I don't have a split screen
(usually anyway) and, when things don't work right, I just take both
apps out of the switcher and that's usually sufficient.
I hope this helps a bit.
Please return my receipt or come back to me to let me know you have
both seen this as my desktop doesn't allow me to indicate (as with
the phone) that I wish to see responses to certain threads.
Carol P
Post by Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three
fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an
underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I
swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love
to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the
inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of
what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly.
I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just
too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot
positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For
example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a
text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille
keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away
from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches
to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations
on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these
issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third
party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.
Thanks!
Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB
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Post by Brett
Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I
bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app
it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille,
but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have
purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.
For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille
keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time.
Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS
keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have
received better support from apps that were free.
Cheers, Brett.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
Post by Richard Turner
On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone
keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about how flaky
some of this is, but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working than any other. I haven't bought the feature you
describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it, which
is a
hwile ago now. But I'm still on their list and I suppose there's
no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
R.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was
released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well. I find it to be not quite as refined as is
MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence. Also, it does not have the word processing
ability of MBraille. If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for
me to use as those in MBraille.
A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a
third-party keyboard. At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last
weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again. I deleted that emogey keyboard which I
never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard. It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next
keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into
MBraille. I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my
fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean
a three-finger swipe toward the home button.) It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.
No more copying and pasting.
Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though,
that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a
bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways
it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the
disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include
on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only
thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad
and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come
close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in
which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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I use it on iPad, tabletop mode, six dot, orientation locked.
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I use Braille screne input six dots and even contracted in screne away mode. I use very frequently for text messages Emails notes and to search on the web. Ruby

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Hello,
Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, I always braille on the iPad.

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I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when walking around with my cane in the other hand.
iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
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Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start brailling on it more.
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Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, I always braille on the iPad.
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Dani Pagador
2016-01-25 19:22:08 UTC
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Hi.
I love the Braille Screen input option, especially because I can edit
as I go and understand what's happening. I don't have to worry about
whether I'm inadvertently inputting unwanted text. I use it when I'm
working with y iPod Touch away from my Braille display, tabletop mode,
uncontracted UEB.

More Later,
Dani
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Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a
bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start brailling on it more.
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Hello,
Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda
small, I always braille on the iPad.
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I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?

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Yes, braille screen input is a great feature. There are some places where
it does not work. If you are in a multi-line edit field it will not let you
go to the next line. For the most part, I use it as my input method.
It is great for writing short emails.
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Hi,

In a multi-line edit field, you can start a new line with iOS braille by doing a two finger swipe right.

Hope this helps,
Brett.


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Yes, braille screen input is a great feature. There are some places where it does not work. If you are in a multi-line edit field it will not let you go to the next line. For the most part, I use it as my input method.
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'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
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If you're in landscape mode do a 3 fingered swipe either up or down and you will toggle between locking and unlocking your orientation. I hope this is what want.


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I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?

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Hello,
Its a practise and error. To calibrate, we will need your device first, in order to give the right command. Its different on both my iPad and phone. Typing modes, do you mean braille codes, or typing modes?

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I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
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Hello Rajmund. I use an IPhone 6S. I'm using it with a Brailliant BI 40 Braille display. I want to recalibrate it. Are the standard, touch typing and the direct touch typing modes available when using the braille screen input feature?
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Its a practise and error. To calibrate, we will need your device first, in order to give the right command. Its different on both my iPad and phone. Typing modes, do you mean braille codes, or typing modes?
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Hello,
Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)

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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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That’s what’s keeping me where I’m at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that’s the closest to any Android I’m gonna cut it at this point. Lol. Love the braille input and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Not sure why misinformation about Android crept into this thread, but
there are virtual braille keyboards for Android, including MBraille.
Just from Googling, there's another one called the Super Braille
Keyboard. I'm not trying to talk anyone into trying or considering
Android; I'm just trying to make sure these incorrect assumptions don't
get spread any further.
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That’s what’s keeping me where I’m at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that’s the closest to any Android I’m gonna cut it at this point. Lol. Love the braille input and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.

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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.

Thanks for the idea. Already got it!

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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.

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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

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Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start brailling on it more.
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Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, I always braille on the iPad.
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I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when walking around with my cane in the other hand.
iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
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Hi all is M Braille a podcast thing? How do I get to buy? Here on app store, it says that M Braille is a podcast thing, and when I type IOS Braille I get MBraille can anyone help? I appreciate your help. Ruby

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Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

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Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, I always braille on the iPad.
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iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
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mBraille is worth checking how he writes it.
Check how I wrote it, that seems to work.
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Hi all is M Braille a podcast thing? How do I get to buy? Here on app store, it says that M Braille is a podcast thing, and when I
type IOS Braille I get MBraille can anyone help? I appreciate your help. Ruby

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Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

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Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, I always braille on the iPad.
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I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For
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iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
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Brett.
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Hi Rob, and all, I downloaded mBraille, but I don't know how to use this. I went to the podcast where Shawn has uploaded the demonstration of this mBraille, but it is no more awailable. Please can you help? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Ruby

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mBraille is worth checking how he writes it.
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Hi,
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iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
Cheers,
Brett.
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mBraille is by mPaja, notice the lower case m prefix in both cases, like the lower case i in iOs and related Apple things.

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Hi all is M Braille a podcast thing? How do I get to buy? Here on app store, it says that M Braille is a podcast thing, and when I
type IOS Braille I get MBraille can anyone help? I appreciate your help. Ruby

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Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

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Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start
brailling on it more.
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Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, I always braille on the iPad.
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I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For
Example, texting when walking around with my cane in the other hand.
iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
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Hi,
It does. Flick 2 fingers to the right.

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Yes, braille screen input is a great feature. There are some places where it does not work. If you are in a multi-line edit field it will not let you go to the next line. For the most part, I use it as my input method.
It is great for writing short emails.
Thanks!
I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?
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Jennie Facer
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Hi, LOL, neither would I. A braille terminal and a braille display will never get close to a all in 1 device, no matter whether virtual or physical keyboards.

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That's what's keeping me where I'm at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that's the closest to any Android I'm gonna cut it at this point. Lol. Love the braille input and wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Hello,
Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.

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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
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You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
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Chris,

Why are you suggesting here that the Third Party keyboard only works
with uncontracted Braille? Not in my house! <Smiles>

I am sure, if you upgrade but don't pay for that Third Party keyboard,
or maybe you don't allow all options, it may not work but, if you do, it
does - for me anyway.

I'd be interested to know why it doesn't work for you.

Carol P
Post by christopher hallsworth
You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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I answered the question on what one gets if they just use the mBraille as is, i.e. not paid for any features the "full" or "pro" offers. In case you didn't get the original thread, here it is, pasted below.

"Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now."
Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Chris,
Why are you suggesting here that the Third Party keyboard only works with uncontracted Braille? Not in my house! <Smiles>
I am sure, if you upgrade but don't pay for that Third Party keyboard, or maybe you don't allow all options, it may not work but, if you do, it does - for me anyway.
I'd be interested to know why it doesn't work for you.
Carol P
Post by christopher hallsworth
You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Rajmund
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Hello Paul,
No, braille screen input is direct touch. If you touch a key combination, that is entered, in other words. If you use a braille display, unless I'm terribly wrong, I don't believe you have to calibrate that, but I'm not sure, as I never use a display, I just find it too tedious.

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Hello Rajmund. I use an IPhone 6S. I'm using it with a Brailliant BI 40 Braille display. I want to recalibrate it. Are the standard, touch typing and the direct touch typing modes available when using the braille screen input feature?
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Its a practise and error. To calibrate, we will need your device first, in order to give the right command. Its different on both my iPad and phone. Typing modes, do you mean braille codes, or typing modes?
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Hello everybody.
I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
1. How do I recalibrate?
2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much.
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Hello,
Its still not built in like for IOS, though. For some of us, while we're new, a braille keyboard is a miracle. It sure was for me. With android, I would have had no choice, but to go app hunting the very first day.

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Not sure why misinformation about Android crept into this thread, but
there are virtual braille keyboards for Android, including MBraille.
Just from Googling, there's another one called the Super Braille
Keyboard. I'm not trying to talk anyone into trying or considering
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That's what's keeping me where I'm at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that's the closest to any Android I'm gonna cut it at this point. Lol. Love the braille input and wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Hello,
Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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I use braille screen input, but more for messaging and emailing when I'm on the go and don't have my keyboard, which I yep faster on. I don't, however, use braille screen input for MudRammer or anything like that where text has to sometimes be quickly entered and sent.

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Hello,
Its still not built in like for IOS, though. For some of us, while we're new, a braille keyboard is a miracle. It sure was for me. With android, I would have had no choice, but to go app hunting the very first day.
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That's what's keeping me where I'm at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that's the closest to any Android I'm gonna cut it at this point. Lol. Love the braille input and wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Hello,
Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?

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You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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2016-01-30 22:31:29 UTC
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No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the many dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party keyboard, directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want with it.
Post by Rajmund
Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
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Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
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You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Hello,
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Arnold Schmidt
2016-01-31 14:59:40 UTC
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Although some have reported, on this list, that the following does not work
for them, this is the way I do it. Assuming you have selected MBraille
using the next keyboard button, and have written your message, do a
three-finger swipe right. MBraille should put what you have written into the
text field, and you will be back onto the regular screen, so that you can
send it. When I say swipe right,I am holding my fingers vertically on the
screen, as if I am going to write dots 4-5-6,perhaps two thirds of the way
toward the home button. Being that I am holding my phone in landscape, I
swipe toward the home button. I hope this works for you.

Arnold Schmidt
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Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not
input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?

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You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to
input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to
either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only
uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are
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Post by Rajmund
Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all?
For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE,
now.
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Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that
MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do
something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more
accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are
already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite
often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and
paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away
mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and
IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle
Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's
braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily
basis, that's for sure.
Post by Rajmund
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more
accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are
already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite
often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and
paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away
mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and
IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle
Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's
braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily
basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that
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Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more
accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are
already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite
often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and
paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ”
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine
becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and
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Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's
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basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more
accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are
already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite
often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and
paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ”
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine
becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and
IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle
Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's
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Hello,
OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for me, since it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back, though. Time to go back to the default braille keyboard!

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Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016 10:32 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Post by christopher hallsworth
No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the many dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party keyboard, directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want with it.
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Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
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You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor.. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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How does it require extra work? I suppose it might if you're using it as
a stand alone app, and you don't get any benefits out of all of it's
features, but since it's also available as a 3rd party keyboard, I don't
see where the extra work is.
Post by Rajmund
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OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for me, since it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back, though. Time to go back to the default braille keyboard!
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Post by christopher hallsworth
No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the many dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party keyboard, directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want with it.
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OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
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You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor.. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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Hi,

Yep, save your money, avoid the bugs and stick to the default braille
keyboard, at least it works as advertised.

MBraille is more work than the standard keyboard to get in and out of,
but it does have some nice features which would be nice if the app
actually worked as advertised. for Example being able to read what you
have written with out dismissing the keyboard and spell check as you
type. Also being able to type basic emogies from the braille keyboard is
also nice. However, given the cost of the app, the lack of support and
the fact the iOS braille is now quite good and accurate, I would save
your dollars and just learn the native braille keyboard.

Cheers,
Brett.
Post by Christopher Chaltain
How does it require extra work? I suppose it might if you're using it
as a stand alone app, and you don't get any benefits out of all of
it's features, but since it's also available as a 3rd party keyboard,
I don't see where the extra work is.
Post by Rajmund
Hello,
OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for
me, since it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back,
though. Time to go back to the default braille keyboard!
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Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Post by christopher hallsworth
No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of
the many dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a
third party keyboard, directly or indirectly type the text, then do
whatever you want with it.
Post by Rajmund
Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you
not input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
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Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Post by christopher hallsworth
You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the
keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and
send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third
party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the
editing features are disabled.
Post by Rajmund
Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At
all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious
about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think
that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because
I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it
is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe,
though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because
it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can
open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in
some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is
to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one
of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you
can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ”
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is
helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both
iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input
for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had
anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's
an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Post by Rajmund
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it
is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe,
though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because
it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can
open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in
some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is
to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one
of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you
can include on the rotor.. By the way, I use the "away mode" ”
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is
helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both
iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input
for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had
anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's
an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think
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I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it
is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe,
though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's
a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can
open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some
ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to
have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of
the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can
include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ”
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both
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for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything
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Hello,
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is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe,
though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's
a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can
open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some
ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to
have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of
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Hello,
Clicked next keyboard, MBRAILLE, and there were no send buttons, etc.



Sent from an iPad
How does it require extra work? I suppose it might if you're using it as a stand alone app, and you don't get any benefits out of all of it's features, but since it's also available as a 3rd party keyboard, I don't see where the extra work is.
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OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for me, since it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back, though. Time to go back to the default braille keyboard!
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No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the many dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party keyboard, directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want with it.
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OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
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You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
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Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE, now.
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
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Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor.. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.
Hello,
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Hi,
Thanks, I might try, but to be fair, I'm happy with the default keyboard; just was hoping for something accurate, on smaller screens.

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Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Post by Arnold Schmidt
Although some have reported, on this list, that the following does not work
for them, this is the way I do it. Assuming you have selected MBraille
using the next keyboard button, and have written your message, do a
three-finger swipe right. MBraille should put what you have written into the
text field, and you will be back onto the regular screen, so that you can
send it. When I say swipe right,I am holding my fingers vertically on the
screen, as if I am going to write dots 4-5-6,perhaps two thirds of the way
toward the home button. Being that I am holding my phone in landscape, I
swipe toward the home button. I hope this works for you.
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Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not
input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
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Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Post by christopher hallsworth
You download the MBraille app for free, and you can use the keyboard to
input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to
either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only
uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are
disabled.
Post by Rajmund
Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all?
For me, the default app does it just fine, but curious about MBRAILLE,
now.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that
MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do
something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
Post by 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more
accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are
already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite
often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and
paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away
mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is
helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and
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Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's
braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily
basis, that's for sure.
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Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more
accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
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already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite
often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and
paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away
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Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that
MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do
something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
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Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
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Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board
keyboard.. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more
accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are
already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite
often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and
paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it
better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ”
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine
becoming proficient with anything other than this..
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helpful! Carol P
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o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and
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accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a
user perspective and the errors could be mine!
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tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are
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better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing.. I'm
afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple
which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ”
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine
becoming proficient with anything other than this.
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is
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