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iOS8: Enter Passcode with Braille Screen Input?
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Teresa Cochran
2014-09-18 08:23:07 UTC
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Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Amy Ruell
2014-09-18 09:02:49 UTC
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Hello,

I found that my typing was re-set to standard when I upgraded, although I had touch typing enabled prior to the upgrade. Check that setting if you haven’t already.





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Hi, all,

Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.



Thanks,

Teresa

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Alex Hall
2014-09-18 13:13:47 UTC
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Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
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Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
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Teresa Cochran
2014-09-18 15:31:26 UTC
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I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.

Teresa

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Post by Alex Hall
Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
Post by Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
Thanks,
Teresa
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Alex Hall
2014-09-18 15:48:49 UTC
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If you are referring to my message, that's what I meant. I do a 3-finger swipe right to get to the passcode screen, and always. I then rotor right once to braille input mode, type my passcode as described in my last message, and that's it, my phone unlocks immediately.
Post by Teresa Cochran
I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.
Teresa
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Post by Alex Hall
Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
Post by Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
Thanks,
Teresa
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Jonathan Mosen
2014-09-18 15:52:14 UTC
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Hi Alex, it's a very good question since Prizmo is so much cheaper. I've not yet tried the new version of Prizmo although until yesterday, prizmo was my OCR of choice on the phone. So I think to give a fair answer, I'd need to play with the new Prizmo a little. Will try to get to that over the next week but someone else may beat me to it.
I do like how in KNFB Reader, you get very good feedback, both through vibration and field of view reports, about the picture you're going to take. And once you take the picture, it just starts to speak really fast.
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Post by Alex Hall
If you are referring to my message, that's what I meant. I do a 3-finger swipe right to get to the passcode screen, and always. I then rotor right once to braille input mode, type my passcode as described in my last message, and that's it, my phone unlocks immediately.
Post by Teresa Cochran
I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
Post by Alex Hall
Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
Post by Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
Thanks,
Teresa
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Teresa Cochran
2014-09-18 17:46:10 UTC
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Ah,, ok, thanks, Alex. This is not working for me, however. I may be experiencing a bit of a learning curve. There doesn't seem to be much leeway once calibrating is finished. And I'm consistently getting "0 values".

Teresa

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Post by Alex Hall
If you are referring to my message, that's what I meant. I do a 3-finger swipe right to get to the passcode screen, and always. I then rotor right once to braille input mode, type my passcode as described in my last message, and that's it, my phone unlocks immediately.
Post by Teresa Cochran
I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
Post by Alex Hall
Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
Post by Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
Thanks,
Teresa
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RobH.
2014-09-19 09:13:15 UTC
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I haven't done the calbrate thing, I use it as-is, and worked thus far.
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Subject: Re: iOS8: Enter Passcode with Braille Screen Input?


Ah,, ok, thanks, Alex. This is not working for me, however. I may be
experiencing a bit of a learning curve. There doesn't seem to be much leeway
once calibrating is finished. And I'm consistently getting "0 values".

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
Post by Alex Hall
If you are referring to my message, that's what I meant. I do a 3-finger
swipe right to get to the passcode screen, and always. I then rotor right
once to braille input mode, type my passcode as described in my last
message, and that's it, my phone unlocks immediately.
Post by Teresa Cochran
I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input,
as in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
Post by Alex Hall
Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not
dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
Post by Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
Thanks,
Teresa
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RobH.
2014-09-18 18:48:51 UTC
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Yes, that too, I rather like it. The braille input that is.
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I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as
in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
Post by Alex Hall
Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not
dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
Post by Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
Thanks,
Teresa
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Teresa Cochran
2014-09-19 19:47:02 UTC
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Ok, I'm finally getting the hang of this. There is more of a muscle memory learning curve for me than I expected, but I've entered my passcode twice successfully. :)

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Post by RobH.
Yes, that too, I rather like it. The braille input that is.
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I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as
in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
Post by Alex Hall
Yes, I do it all the time. I hit the number sign, the numbers (not
dropped), and once I hit the last one, my device unlocks.
Post by Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,
Is this doable? I haven't made it work. No characters are entered.
Thanks,
Teresa
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Can someone give me some instructions to enter my passcode with my
braille display? As of now, I haven't gotten this to work? Do I need
to enable something on the rotor first? Thanks for all help!

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Post by Teresa Cochran
Ok, I'm finally getting the hang of this. There is more of a muscle memory
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Yes, that too, I rather like it. The braille input that is.
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I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as
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Teresa
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Do you mean a bluetooth braille display, or the onscreen braille input? The former has been supported since iOS4, maybe earlier; the latter is new in iOS8.
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Can someone give me some instructions to enter my passcode with my
braille display? As of now, I haven't gotten this to work? Do I need
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Ok, I'm finally getting the hang of this. There is more of a muscle memory
learning curve for me than I expected, but I've entered my passcode twice
successfully. :)
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Yes, that too, I rather like it. The braille input that is.
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I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as
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Teresa
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Unlock your device either with the unlock button by routing your Braille cursor to it or go to the previous horizontal page with dots 2-4-6 chord. If you use contractions while typing, press the number sign and letter sign before numbers or letters. If you don't use contractions, use Braille lower case for numbers and simply type the letters.

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Post by Alex Hall
Do you mean a bluetooth braille display, or the onscreen braille input? The former has been supported since iOS4, maybe earlier; the latter is new in iOS8.
Post by Sharonda Greenlaw
Hi all,
Can someone give me some instructions to enter my passcode with my
braille display? As of now, I haven't gotten this to work? Do I need
to enable something on the rotor first? Thanks for all help!
Sharonda
Post by Teresa Cochran
Ok, I'm finally getting the hang of this. There is more of a muscle memory
learning curve for me than I expected, but I've entered my passcode twice
successfully. :)
Teresa
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Post by RobH.
Yes, that too, I rather like it. The braille input that is.
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Subject: Re: iOS8: Enter Passcode with Braille Screen Input?
I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as
in setting the rotor to Braille and entering it on the touch-screen.
Teresa
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with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
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I had no problem with this in iOS7 but I just now figured it out in iOS8. Part of the problem was that I was I suppose being lazy and hadn't looked in settings to see what the defaults were now that input and output for braille displays are handled separately. What I finally did is this: I did chord-3,6 on the unlock button. Then I pressed chord-236 which then announced it was in eight-dot. So immediately I enterd my passcode numbers ain lower case and this worked.
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Post by Teresa Cochran
Unlock your device either with the unlock button by routing your Braille cursor to it or go to the previous horizontal page with dots 2-4-6 chord. If you use contractions while typing, press the number sign and letter sign before numbers or letters. If you don't use contractions, use Braille lower case for numbers and simply type the letters.
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successfully. :)
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Yes, that too, I rather like it. The braille input that is.
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I'm sorry for the confusion. I was referring to onscreen Braille input, as
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Teresa
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