Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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[Cristobal Muñoz]

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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[Reg Sullivan]

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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From: ***@googlegroups.com [mailto:***@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I do too he should get a commission fee or something (smile).
Cristobal I was wondering you mentioned two others in the
Nautilus line that are closely related. Might you have links to them too or
their model numbers? I'd have tried to find them myself but would hate to
end up on the wrong thing. I just thought it'd be neat to compare the other
two similar ones from that line you mentioned. Thanks in advance if you
have their links too. If not that's perfectly understandable.

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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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Of Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a
necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and
230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we
come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for
the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier
machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to
get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this
was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven
like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and
elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch
screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the
elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus
is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there
are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle
with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands
on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it
can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to
put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played
with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned.
My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps
that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine.
I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we
would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are
Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and
then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is.
https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by
song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to
slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that
bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the
bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it
to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You
really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The
description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put
together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My
treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel
for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were
other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail
controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was
interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor
housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or
down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be
hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up
touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app
accessibility.

Cristóbal

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Otten
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to
get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone.
Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it
gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody
has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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[Cristobal Munoz]

Holy smokes… Hey, anyone want to buy a slightly used treadmill? I’ll cut you a deal.
To be clear, it was on sale via other sides as well. Walmart, Dick’s Sporting Goods. In fact, where I was able to try it out as well as some others was at my local Sears.

Post by Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Reg Sullivan]

Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!

Cheers....Reg


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Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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[Sieghard Weitzel]

That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.

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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!

Cheers....Reg


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Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 4:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

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Mary

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[Cristobal Muñoz]

Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.

Cristóbal

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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.

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Sieghard


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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!

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Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

Cristóbal

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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary

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[Traci Duncan]

Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.

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Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Mary Otten]

Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.
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Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Traci Duncan]

Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.

I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.

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Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
Mary
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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.
Traci
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Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Mary Otten]

Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked to for his treadmill.

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Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.
I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
Mary
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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.
Traci
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.

https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf


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Post by Mary Otten
Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked to for his treadmill.
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Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.
I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
Mary
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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.
Traci
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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Thanks a lot for that link, Tracy. I will check it out now and definitely report back if I do in fact get to see the treadmill this weekend.
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Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.
https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf
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Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked to for his treadmill.
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Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.
I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
Mary
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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.
Traci
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Mary Otten]

Hi Tracy,
I think this is an old manual. I saw a reference to a copyright date of 2004. Also, the description doesn’t seem to match what I read in the treadmill review, in that they’re talking about a dotmatrix display, where as the review talks about an LCD screen. And as you said, there’s no reference to Bluetooth. So I think it’s anybody’s guess with the new one might actually look like.
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Post by Traci Duncan
Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.
https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf
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Post by Mary Otten
Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked to for his treadmill.
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Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.
I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
Mary
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Post by Traci Duncan
Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.
Traci
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Cristobal Muñoz]

From what I recall, I was more inclined toward the Nautilus over the Sole line among other reasons, that it had longer handrails.

I didn’t like the Nordic tracks because the way they were designed, the console was placed a little further away from the belt making it too easy to clip the housing if you wanted to get closer and you kind of had to lean forward to press any buttons on it.

When I was looking into getting a treadmill, I asked around on this and other lists about app accessibility. I didn’t get much if any responses. A lot of the newer models highlight the Google Fitness service. Proform especially. But that’s something like $9 a month. The Nautilus doesn’t work with it, but I do believe it can work with Run Social. I haven’t played with it so don’t know how it works as far as loading a program or routt. A lot of sighted people swear by it though.



Cristóbal



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Hi Tracy,
I think this is an old manual. I saw a reference to a copyright date of 2004. Also, the description doesn’t seem to match what I read in the treadmill review, in that they’re talking about a dotmatrix display, where as the review talks about an LCD screen. And as you said, there’s no reference to Bluetooth. So I think it’s anybody’s guess with the new one might actually look like.
Mary



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On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Traci Duncan <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.

https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf



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Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked to for his treadmill.

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Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.



I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.



Tracy



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Hi Tracy,

I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.

Mary





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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.



Traci





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On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:



Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.

My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`

Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.

I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.

A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.



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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca <http://Amazon.ca> . Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.

My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.



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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!



Cheers....Reg





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Hi Reg,



Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.

Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca <http://Amazon.ca> and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca <http://Amazon.ca> this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.



If you order one



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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.

I want one!



Reg





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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/

I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.

There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.

As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/

For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.

The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.

Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.



Cristóbal



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Hi all,

I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.

Mary



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[Mary Otten]

Shorter side rails was one of the things that they mentioned in the review as something they did not care for on the sole treadmills. As a walker, not a runner, I’m not sure I would care about that. I don’t think the sporting good store I’m going to has the Nautilis. One thing I would absolutely have to have his delivery and professional set up. There is no way I can put this thing together, and I’m not sure my cited partner is up for it either.
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
From what I recall, I was more inclined toward the Nautilus over the Sole line among other reasons, that it had longer handrails.
I didn’t like the Nordic tracks because the way they were designed, the console was placed a little further away from the belt making it too easy to clip the housing if you wanted to get closer and you kind of had to lean forward to press any buttons on it.
When I was looking into getting a treadmill, I asked around on this and other lists about app accessibility. I didn’t get much if any responses. A lot of the newer models highlight the Google Fitness service. Proform especially. But that’s something like $9 a month. The Nautilus doesn’t work with it, but I do believe it can work with Run Social. I haven’t played with it so don’t know how it works as far as loading a program or routt. A lot of sighted people swear by it though.
Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:53 AM
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Hi Tracy,
I think this is an old manual. I saw a reference to a copyright date of 2004. Also, the description doesn’t seem to match what I read in the treadmill review, in that they’re talking about a dotmatrix display, where as the review talks about an LCD screen. And as you said, there’s no reference to Bluetooth. So I think it’s anybody’s guess with the new one might actually look like.
Mary
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Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.
https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf
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Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked to for his treadmill.
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Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.
I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy,
I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.
Mary
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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.
Traci
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Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.
My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`
Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.
I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.
A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.
Cristóbal
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Cristobal Muñoz]

I’ve had shorter railed treadmills in the past and I will say, having the extra few inches helps. Everyone’s stride is different and obviously height is going to matter, but being able to have some wiggle room to go back a bit on the belt and still have comfortable contact with the rails instead of having to always be right up at the front and alter your stride to not step on the motor housing or avoid contact with the console is one of those things only by trying them out first you can get a feel for and appreciate.

Good luck treadmill hunting.



Cristóbal



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Shorter side rails was one of the things that they mentioned in the review as something they did not care for on the sole treadmills. As a walker, not a runner, I’m not sure I would care about that. I don’t think the sporting good store I’m going to has the Nautilis. One thing I would absolutely have to have his delivery and professional set up. There is no way I can put this thing together, and I’m not sure my cited partner is up for it either.
Mary
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On Nov 8, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Cristobal Muñoz <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

From what I recall, I was more inclined toward the Nautilus over the Sole line among other reasons, that it had longer handrails.

I didn’t like the Nordic tracks because the way they were designed, the console was placed a little further away from the belt making it too easy to clip the housing if you wanted to get closer and you kind of had to lean forward to press any buttons on it.

When I was looking into getting a treadmill, I asked around on this and other lists about app accessibility. I didn’t get much if any responses. A lot of the newer models highlight the Google Fitness service. Proform especially. But that’s something like $9 a month. The Nautilus doesn’t work with it, but I do believe it can work with Run Social. I haven’t played with it so don’t know how it works as far as loading a program or routt. A lot of sighted people swear by it though.



Cristóbal



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Hi Tracy,
I think this is an old manual. I saw a reference to a copyright date of 2004. Also, the description doesn’t seem to match what I read in the treadmill review, in that they’re talking about a dotmatrix display, where as the review talks about an LCD screen. And as you said, there’s no reference to Bluetooth. So I think it’s anybody’s guess with the new one might actually look like.
Mary



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On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Traci Duncan <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Mary, here’s a link to the treadmill. Unfortunately, I don’t know what date this manual is for, and I can’t find anything about the Bluetooth.

https://www.soletreadmills.com/manuals/F63.pdf




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Hi Tracy,
Where did you find the manual for this treadmill? I assume it might be on the manufacturers website. I was there, but wasn’t really looking for a manual. Then I went to that treadmill reviews site, the same one where Cristobal linked to for his treadmill.

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Hi Mary, I did see the reviews for the app. They are pretty awful. That is why I’m hoping the Bluetooth capabilities can bypass the app and sync up with Apple health or my fitness pal.



I read the manual for the F63, and I’m pretty sure it has a safety key. Definitely check it out and let us know. I did not walk on the treadmill, but from what I’ve read, it sounds like it’ll be very quiet.



Tracy



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Hi Tracy,

I hope to see that treadmill this weekend at a local sporting goods store which has it in stock. The reviews for the apps are universally horrid. So I wouldn’t count on much there. I mean, it has one star from pretty much everybody who read it. The only thing I don’t like based on what I read is that they review did not mention a stop button or a safety lanyard. Since I have neuropathy, I’m hoping that was just an oversight in the review. The next model up, the F 80, is also reviewed on that same website, and they do mention both a start button and the safety lanyard. It’s more expensive. But you can’t put a price on your health and safety.

Mary





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Mary, have you seen the Sole Treadmill? I went and looked at the F63 and really liked it. It has the controls on the arms, and most of the buttons on the unit are large rubber ones. The remaining buttons look like they may be easy to braille. The F63 now has bluetooth capability and can connect up to three or four different apps. I am hoping this part is accessible. After I walk on the treadmill, I hope to see my status inside the Apple health app. The F63 model is the one that is tempting me, the $899 price is the best I have seen.



Traci





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Brag brag. Brag. Brag. Brag. Some of us have to make more of an effort to maintain our svelte-like figure you know.

My first choice is to go for a stroll with my wife. For this, I use the Map My Walk app. It had some VO bugs in the past, but it seems they've since been resolved and now it plays well with VoiceOver. I aim for at the very least 2 miles a day and more often than not, am around 3 to 3.5 miles for a walk a day. With more on the weekends or when I really want to go for a pseudo-hike. Where we we live though, going for a walk every day isn't always feasible. 100º or more weather and now, we're into the Santa Ana wind season. We're expecting another event later today and tomorrow. Not going to go walking in all that nasty wind.`

Since I work from home and have to make more of the effort to get moving, I wanted to get something that was better put together. I've tried going cheap with treadmills in the past, but yeah . . . if you're a bigger/taller person, you need to spend a little more if you don't want to be stepping on something that's going to shake every single time you take a step.

I had a spread sheet of the models with their corresponding specs and once I identified the ones I really was interested in, I added them to my Honey coupon list and waited for a deal. It took around three months, but when the Amazon alert came in, I was all over the Nautilus like ugly on an ape. There were also some machines that supposedly work with the Google Fitness app/service, but I didn't want to be tied into a paid subscription plan. Being able to check my results after my walk is good enough for me.

A side note, the guy Amazon contracted to put my treadmill together was deaf mute. We communicated via text message on our iPhones. Technology man. The great equalizer.



Cristóbal



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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca <http://Amazon.ca> . Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.

My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.



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Sieghard





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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!



Cheers....Reg





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Hi Reg,



Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.

Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca <http://Amazon.ca> and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca <http://Amazon.ca> this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.



If you order one



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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.

I want one!



Reg





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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/

I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all-around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.

There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.

As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/

For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.

The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.

Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.



Cristóbal



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Hi all,

I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.

Mary



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[Reg Sullivan]

Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she gets it cleaned and service once a year.
Good idea to put the model on that
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.

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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!

Cheers....Reg


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Hi Reg,

Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.

If you order one

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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!

Reg


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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.

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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
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Right now, all of the sole treadmills are on a very deep discount sale, whether directly from them or from any local store that might happen to carry them. So for instance, the F 63 which has been mentioned here, is right now selling for around $900. That would not include any charge for delivery and set up of course.
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Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she gets it cleaned and service once a year.
Good idea to put the model on that
honey coupon list
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That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Mary
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Hese have Bluetooth conductivity or some other accessible means to get the data?





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Right now, all of the sole treadmills are on a very deep discount sale, whether directly from them or from any local store that might happen to carry them. So for instance, the F 63 which has been mentioned here, is right now selling for around $900. That would not include any charge for delivery and set up of course.
Mary


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Post by Reg Sullivan
Everything we've looked at here is 3k and greater.
Thankfullly Cathy's machine a ten year old Body Guard is in great shape, she gets it cleaned and service once a year.
Good idea to put the model on that
honey coupon list
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
That was $995 or whatever US, but still that would be $1,300 or or so Canadian at the current exchange rate which is pretty much half of what it is being listed for on Amazon.ca. Anyhow, I haven't checked other places, I'm sure between Walmart, Best Buy and so on one can find a better deal, but then again I'm not looking. I have a 20 minute walk from my house to my store every morning and another one back in the evening although if I walk quite fast I can do It in 15, it's about 1.2 or 1.3 Km each way, about a mile and a half return for all you Americans.
My store is 2 floors so I usually run up and down the stairs at least a half a dozen times each day which is a couple of hundred steps and especially in the winter month my wife and I try to get to the pool at least once a week. Of course one can always do more exercise, but what I do seems to be enough to maintain my weight at about 175 pounds give or take 3 or 4 pounds. I am 5 feet 11 inches and my involvement in competitive gymnastics before I became blind at the age of 16 along with growing up on a farm seems to have given me a base level of fitness which even without doing that much nowadays I still maintain and benefit from.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Not sure where or when Cristóbal bought this unit at less than $1k. I would love one at that price!
Cheers....Reg
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi Reg,
Go ahead and order two, I'll stop by and pick it up in a few weeks, take you out for dinner for the trouble, too.
Just looked this T618 up on Amazon.ca and while in the article/review it said something about $1,299 which I assume was US Dollars, on Amazon.ca this thing is listed for $2,749, add to this taxes and it will be $3,000... ridiculous.
If you order one
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
WOW, what a great review, I think you just sold it.
I want one!
Reg
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://wwwtreadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Mary Otten]

Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Cristobal Muñoz]

Made me check the Nautilus site. Looks like they're still selling it if you want to buy directly from them. https://www.nautilus.com/nautilus-treadmills
So I exaggerated . The T618 is only 254 LBS. Still, I'm not moving that sucker any time soon.
After finding a model with built-in handrail controls, I think I'd find it hard to go back to something that didn't have this design in the future. App accessibility in this case would be secondary to this consideration for me.
I have a hard enough time trying to swipe and double tap on my propped up iPhone with Pandora for skipping or doing a thumbs up/down while I'm all out of breath and running/jogging or doing a hard incline without losing my rhythm, I don't know how practical it would be to try navigating a bunch of menus or checking stats in real time while keeping up a hard pace. With so many moving parts, you could probably hurt yourself good if you're not careful.

Cristóbal

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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary


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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Mary Otten]

No I think the handrail controls are great idea. I just thought it would be nice to be able to have something where you could actually take advantage of all those programs that they build in. The sole that I was looking at also has handrail control. And I’m not going to be running. I have neuropathy, thank you chemotherapy, so I’m just interested in being able to keep up walking when the weather is not so great for going out.
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
Made me check the Nautilus site. Looks like they're still selling it if you want to buy directly from them. https://www.nautilus.com/nautilus-treadmills
So I exaggerated . The T618 is only 254 LBS. Still, I'm not moving that sucker any time soon.
After finding a model with built-in handrail controls, I think I'd find it hard to go back to something that didn't have this design in the future. App accessibility in this case would be secondary to this consideration for me.
I have a hard enough time trying to swipe and double tap on my propped up iPhone with Pandora for skipping or doing a thumbs up/down while I'm all out of breath and running/jogging or doing a hard incline without losing my rhythm, I don't know how practical it would be to try navigating a bunch of menus or checking stats in real time while keeping up a hard pace. With so many moving parts, you could probably hurt yourself good if you're not careful.
Cristóbal
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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Cristobal Muñoz]

I was of the same mindset, but I've come to the realization that being able to control a treadmill via an app really isn't as important as it is having the ability to quickly and efficiently access the treadmill controls in a tactile manner. The Nautilus in this case, has buttons to quickly jump to different preset speeds and incline levels on the console along with having the manual controls both on the console as well as on the handrails that work in increments of one for incline or a tenth of a mile for speed. I'm usually blasting my music or listening to an audiobook or Netflix anyway while on my walks/runs, so it's not like I'd even want to interact with an app to adjust this or check that on the treadmill since you can only hear and pay attention to so many things at the same time while trying to maintain your stride and not somehow step wrong or whatever.
Like I mentioned earlier, to mix it up, I'll switch the pace or incline by songs to break up the monotony or if reading/listening to a show, use a separate interval timer and set it for 5 or ten or however many minutes I want.
Where I would be interested in a machine that can be controlled or monitored via an app is a stationary bike. You have a little more control over stuff and don’t have to worry about dropping anything or stepping wrong while tapping away and being distracted.
The bike we have is a Schwin recumbant bike that's about 10 years old. I brailled the display where I could, but I more often than not, need my wife to select the program for me since it's not really accessible. With this one, there's no bluetooth to even check my progress, but I've used it enough times where she's gone over my stats at the end that I know by now my average calorie burn is roughly 300 for an hour of peddling. Not ideal, but you work with what you got.

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No I think the handrail controls are great idea. I just thought it would be nice to be able to have something where you could actually take advantage of all those programs that they build in. The sole that I was looking at also has handrail control. And I’m not going to be running. I have neuropathy, thank you chemotherapy, so I’m just interested in being able to keep up walking when the weather is not so great for going out.
Mary


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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
Made me check the Nautilus site. Looks like they're still selling it if you want to buy directly from them. https://www.nautilus.com/nautilus-treadmills
So I exaggerated . The T618 is only 254 LBS. Still, I'm not moving that sucker any time soon.
After finding a model with built-in handrail controls, I think I'd find it hard to go back to something that didn't have this design in the future. App accessibility in this case would be secondary to this consideration for me.
I have a hard enough time trying to swipe and double tap on my propped up iPhone with Pandora for skipping or doing a thumbs up/down while I'm all out of breath and running/jogging or doing a hard incline without losing my rhythm, I don't know how practical it would be to try navigating a bunch of menus or checking stats in real time while keeping up a hard pace. With so many moving parts, you could probably hurt yourself good if you're not careful.
Cristóbal
Cristóbal
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone

Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
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Mary
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['Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone]

Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.

Linda

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Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a
link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to
them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no
longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is
right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary


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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a
necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and
230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here
we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots
for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around
sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding
on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this
was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven
like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and
elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch
screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the
elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge
plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and
there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to
hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your
hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so
that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just
knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played
with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is
completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the
workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned.
My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps
that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine.
I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we
would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are
Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That
and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is.
https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just
throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself
by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being
able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and
convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options
that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is
on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I
waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with
free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together.
It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah,
once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like
280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or
die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local
retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a
feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there
were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The
rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was
interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor
housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or
down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be
hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up
touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app
accessibility.
Cristóbal
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I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to
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Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But
it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if
anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Mary Otten]

Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.


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Post by 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.

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Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.


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Post by 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Mary
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[Mary Otten]

I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Mary,

We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, has been happy with it. He is also blind and has no issues using it. He did put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of the machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change these. We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every other day for about an hour, and it is holding up fine. When I use it, I usually read and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy either.

Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.

Pam


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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
Mary

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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Post by 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.treadmillreviews.net%2Fnautilus-t618%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C698a93355ae34176cda008d6476bc7b1%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636774925579579122&amp;sdata=DcDQnCWtx7fuX2tFoe%2BLqBcizWkwqYOEV3zwrvTqLlo%3D&amp;reserved=0
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.treadmillreviews.net%2Fpeloton-tread%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C698a93355ae34176cda008d6476bc7b1%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636774925579579122&amp;sdata=RmkG4u4Cvks7TZUOOE%2BxVhAtAHLocO5gE%2BAqaH2NY0Q%3D&amp;reserved=0
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Mary Otten]

Hi Pam,
Well, I think the basic functionality will be fine, and my physical therapist will be happy, so what’s not to like?
On the other hand, have you guys found anyway to make the program is accessible? And have you had the same kind of really lousy lock that everybody else report regarding the app and the connectivity with things like the Apple health app? I think it would really be cool to have the data in the health app.
Mary


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Post by Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Mary,
We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, has been happy with it. He is also blind and has no issues using it. He did put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of the machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change these. We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every other day for about an hour, and it is holding up fine. When I use it, I usually read and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy either.
Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.
Pam
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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
Mary
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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
Cristóbal
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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Post by 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.treadmillreviews.net%2Fnautilus-t618%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C698a93355ae34176cda008d6476bc7b1%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636774925579579122&amp;sdata=DcDQnCWtx7fuX2tFoe%2BLqBcizWkwqYOEV3zwrvTqLlo%3D&amp;reserved=0
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.treadmillreviews.net%2Fpeloton-tread%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C698a93355ae34176cda008d6476bc7b1%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636774925579579122&amp;sdata=RmkG4u4Cvks7TZUOOE%2BxVhAtAHLocO5gE%2BAqaH2NY0Q%3D&amp;reserved=0
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Mary,

Neither of us have really used the app. We both looked at it, but at least a year ago, the iPhone app had a lot of accessibility issues, so I kind of just gave up on it, especially since it did have such awful ratings. I haven't tried it lately, though, and can't remember if it has had any recent updates, so it may be worth a try for you.


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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Pam,
Well, I think the basic functionality will be fine, and my physical therapist will be happy, so what’s not to like?
On the other hand, have you guys found anyway to make the program is accessible? And have you had the same kind of really lousy lock that everybody else report regarding the app and the connectivity with things like the Apple health app? I think it would really be cool to have the data in the health app.
Mary


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Post by Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Mary,
We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, has been happy with it. He is also blind and has no issues using it. He did put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of the machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change these. We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every other day for about an hour, and it is holding up fine. When I use it, I usually read and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy either.
Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.
Pam
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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
Mary
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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Post by 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.treadmillreviews.net%2Fnautilus-t618%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C43a808995b8240df93f608d647717f1d%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636774950167596469&amp;sdata=LumVzYT4xTOO5PTXT6aCcZZRZmTWnl%2BFkZeKt%2BaGuDM%3D&amp;reserved=0
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.treadmillreviews.net%2Fpeloton-tread%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C43a808995b8240df93f608d647717f1d%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636774950167596469&amp;sdata=ziSl7wR7WuvYAFmGR5oNLnw6Gw%2BoTolb7zRcDGofiXg%3D&amp;reserved=0
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Cristobal Muñoz]

If it's like any other modern treadmill, you should be able to pare it to some third party app to access your workout info. Mine along with the Nautilus app that is fully accessible can sync with My Fitness Pal, Map My Walk, but I haven't really looked at the built in health app. You could also give Run Social or one of those services a try too.

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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 5:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app

Hi Mary,

Neither of us have really used the app. We both looked at it, but at least a year ago, the iPhone app had a lot of accessibility issues, so I kind of just gave up on it, especially since it did have such awful ratings. I haven't tried it lately, though, and can't remember if it has had any recent updates, so it may be worth a try for you.


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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:03 PM
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Hi Pam,
Well, I think the basic functionality will be fine, and my physical therapist will be happy, so what’s not to like?
On the other hand, have you guys found anyway to make the program is accessible? And have you had the same kind of really lousy lock that everybody else report regarding the app and the connectivity with things like the Apple health app? I think it would really be cool to have the data in the health app.
Mary


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Post by Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Mary,
We do have this same model, and my husband who is mostly the one who uses it, has been happy with it. He is also blind and has no issues using it. He did put some braille labels by the speed and incline areas on the main part of the machine, but I think he mostly uses the buttons on the rails to change these. We have had it for a little over a year, and he uses it about every other day for about an hour, and it is holding up fine. When I use it, I usually read and use headphones, and I don't find the motor overly noisy either.
Anyway, I hope you are happy with it.
Pam
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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
Mary
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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
Cristóbal
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Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really
played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated
Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my
hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats.
Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which
it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know
of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm
not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way
we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills
that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're
looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't
know what your budget is.
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For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Yohandy Rodriguez]

Hey guys,

Since we're on the topic of treadmills, has anyone checked out full body
vibration platforms? they are said to be better and more effective than
treadmills, but I don't know much about them unfortunately. I have been
researching the topic and was planning on getting one, sounds like a
really nice peace of equipment to have, but I'd like to get feedback
from those on here that have tried it. are they actually effective at
increasing muscle strength and bone density and whatnot, and do you feel
like you got a decent workout after vibrating on one of these for a
while? How durable are these machines, and which would you recommend?
thanks for your help!

Post by Mary Otten
I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
Mary
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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
Cristóbal
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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Post by 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
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Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Sieghard Weitzel]

Oh boy, what will they come up with next. I had never yet heard about these full body vibration gadgets, sounds like something you hear on an infomercial in the middle of the night. Wasn't there at one point something similar, some sort of belt you put around your waist and then it vibrated and it was supposed to tone up your stomach muscles, get rid of stomach fat and all that.

When I just Googled "full body vibration platforms" my first thought was how can something like that possible have any benefit with respect to cardio-vascular fitness. Here is an article from the Mayo Clinic's website, the link si first and I did put the text below as well. This would confirm what my common sense tells me and while the doctor who wrote the article says it can have some benefits, it still sounds like a gadget to me, something which promises more than it delivers, something where there just is no actual proof and something which is meant to make you feel good about working out when really you are not doing much.

One of the key conclusions from the article is this sentence: if you want to lose weight and improve fitness, enjoy a healthy diet and include physical activity in your daily routine.

It seems the entire industry which is built around healthy eating and fitness which is worth billions in the US alone is all focused on one thing: you need to buy all this weird food stuff, supplements and what not and you need to buy expensive fitness machines and if you do that you get slim and fit without doing much. What they don't say is that you can be healthy and fit by simply eating a healthy, balanced diet of quality food and by getting your butt off the couch and outside. Keep in mind that I am generalizing a bit here, I am fully aware that what I say applies to people who are in a position to do this. If somebody is unable to do this because maybe they are not healthy enough then sometimes things like a treadmill or exercise bike is a great way to get at least some exercise, but there is little excuse for not buying healthy fresh food and turning them into meals which are good for you, of course if you still eat three times the amount you should eat then even the healthiest meal is bad for you and the same applies if you constantly stuff yourself with chips, cookies, chocolate and other junk. Is it easy to go out for a brisk walk when it's pouring rain or when it's 30 below with the wind blowing? No, of course not and there is nothing wrong with shifting to more indoor exercises, but I find it much more satisfying to go to my local pool and since most pools also have fitness rooms I can combine a good workout with a half hour swim then if I had a treadmill at home where I can do one thing only. Let's face it, most of us don't have the money for a gym which includes the variety of workout machines that you find in a gym which has $20,000 or $30,000 worth of equipment from weights and strength training machines to treadmills, bikes, rowing machines, stair climbers and so on OK, here now that article"



Is whole-body vibration a good way to lose weight and improve fitness?<https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/expert-answers/whole-body-vibration/faq-20057958>



Is whole-body vibration a good way to lose weight and improve fitness?

Answer From Edward R. Laskowski, M.D.



Whole-body vibration can offer some fitness and health benefits, but it's not clear if it's as good for you as regular exercise.

With whole-body vibration, you stand, sit or lie on a machine with a vibrating platform. As the machine vibrates, it transmits energy to your body, forcing your muscles to contract and relax dozens of times each second. The activity may cause you to feel as if you're exerting yourself. You may find a whole-body vibration machine at a local gym, or you can buy one for home use. Advocates say that as little as 15 minutes a day of whole-body vibration three times a week may aid weight loss, burn fat, improve flexibility, enhance blood flow, reduce muscle soreness after exercise, build strength and decrease the stress hormone cortisol. But comprehensive research about whole-body vibration is lacking. It's not yet clear if whole-body vibration provides the same range of health benefits as exercise you actively engage in, such as walking, biking or swimming.

Some research does show that whole-body vibration may help improve muscle strength and that it may help with weight loss when you also cut back on calories.

Whole-body vibration may also have a role beyond sports and fitness. Some research shows that whole-body vibration, when performed correctly and under medical supervision when needed, can:

• Reduce back pain

• Improve strength and balance in older adults

• Reduce bone loss

Still, if you want to lose weight and improve fitness, enjoy a healthy diet and include physical activity in your daily routine. If you choose whole-body vibration, remember to do aerobic and strength training activities as well.

And because whole-body vibration can be harmful in some situations, check with your doctor before using it, especially if you're pregnant or have any health problems.



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Hey guys,



Since we're on the topic of treadmills, has anyone checked out full body

vibration platforms? they are said to be better and more effective than

treadmills, but I don't know much about them unfortunately. I have been

researching the topic and was planning on getting one, sounds like a

really nice peace of equipment to have, but I'd like to get feedback

from those on here that have tried it. are they actually effective at

increasing muscle strength and bone density and whatnot, and do you feel

like you got a decent workout after vibrating on one of these for a

while? How durable are these machines, and which would you recommend?

thanks for your help!

I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
Mary
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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
Cristóbal
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Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Post by 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
Linda
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
Mary
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Post by Cristobal Muñoz
I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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[Cristobal Muñoz]

Different strokes for different folks I suppose. Back in college, I used to workout at the gym with my buddies. Weights and all that.

Now that I’m older and don’t have so much time to fart around at the gym and have other responsibilities and generally don’t like the idea of being at a place that’s all loud and have to hassle with all the accessibility challenges that would go into maneuvering around a gym full of equipment and people, I’m more a workout at home body weight type of person with a couple of machines. The treadmill because I like the activity of walking and while I did have a guide dog in the past and am cane competent, sometimes, you just want to zone out and not have to pay attention to your surroundings. Turning off your mind and blasting your music or podcast or audiobook or whatever is a nice option to have. The stationary bike with its digital screen we have other than the manual option really isn’t accessible, but we got that over 10 years ago and it’s still going strong. Maybe if and when it gives out, I’ll consider getting something that has some sort of Bluetooth connectivity like the treadmill, but for now, it’s not that big a deal. Other than that, we’ve got a rower and I use kettlebells, resistance bands and gymnastics rings on a pull up bar.

An Apple watch really hasn’t called my attention and other than the treadmill with its bluetooth and a interval timer app I use on my iPhone depending on what I’m doing, I keep it pretty basic.

Not considering apps/services like Netflix or YouTube or Pandora that can help to make the time go by a bit faster. In this regard, it’s helpful to have two iOS devices. One to stream whatever you want and another if you wish to use a timer.



From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 11:22 AM
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Oh boy, what will they come up with next. I had never yet heard about these full body vibration gadgets, sounds like something you hear on an infomercial in the middle of the night. Wasn't there at one point something similar, some sort of belt you put around your waist and then it vibrated and it was supposed to tone up your stomach muscles, get rid of stomach fat and all that.

When I just Googled "full body vibration platforms" my first thought was how can something like that possible have any benefit with respect to cardio-vascular fitness. Here is an article from the Mayo Clinic's website, the link si first and I did put the text below as well. This would confirm what my common sense tells me and while the doctor who wrote the article says it can have some benefits, it still sounds like a gadget to me, something which promises more than it delivers, something where there just is no actual proof and something which is meant to make you feel good about working out when really you are not doing much.

One of the key conclusions from the article is this sentence: if you want to lose weight and improve fitness, enjoy a healthy diet and include physical activity in your daily routine.

It seems the entire industry which is built around healthy eating and fitness which is worth billions in the US alone is all focused on one thing: you need to buy all this weird food stuff, supplements and what not and you need to buy expensive fitness machines and if you do that you get slim and fit without doing much. What they don't say is that you can be healthy and fit by simply eating a healthy, balanced diet of quality food and by getting your butt off the couch and outside. Keep in mind that I am generalizing a bit here, I am fully aware that what I say applies to people who are in a position to do this. If somebody is unable to do this because maybe they are not healthy enough then sometimes things like a treadmill or exercise bike is a great way to get at least some exercise, but there is little excuse for not buying healthy fresh food and turning them into meals which are good for you, of course if you still eat three times the amount you should eat then even the healthiest meal is bad for you and the same applies if you constantly stuff yourself with chips, cookies, chocolate and other junk. Is it easy to go out for a brisk walk when it's pouring rain or when it's 30 below with the wind blowing? No, of course not and there is nothing wrong with shifting to more indoor exercises, but I find it much more satisfying to go to my local pool and since most pools also have fitness rooms I can combine a good workout with a half hour swim then if I had a treadmill at home where I can do one thing only. Let's face it, most of us don't have the money for a gym which includes the variety of workout machines that you find in a gym which has $20,000 or $30,000 worth of equipment from weights and strength training machines to treadmills, bikes, rowing machines, stair climbers and so on OK, here now that article"



Is whole-body vibration a good way to lose weight and improve fitness? <https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/expert-answers/whole-body-vibration/faq-20057958>



Is whole-body vibration a good way to lose weight and improve fitness?

Answer From Edward R. Laskowski, M.D.



Whole-body vibration can offer some fitness and health benefits, but it's not clear if it's as good for you as regular exercise.

With whole-body vibration, you stand, sit or lie on a machine with a vibrating platform. As the machine vibrates, it transmits energy to your body, forcing your muscles to contract and relax dozens of times each second. The activity may cause you to feel as if you're exerting yourself. You may find a whole-body vibration machine at a local gym, or you can buy one for home use. Advocates say that as little as 15 minutes a day of whole-body vibration three times a week may aid weight loss, burn fat, improve flexibility, enhance blood flow, reduce muscle soreness after exercise, build strength and decrease the stress hormone cortisol. But comprehensive research about whole-body vibration is lacking. It's not yet clear if whole-body vibration provides the same range of health benefits as exercise you actively engage in, such as walking, biking or swimming.

Some research does show that whole-body vibration may help improve muscle strength and that it may help with weight loss when you also cut back on calories.

Whole-body vibration may also have a role beyond sports and fitness. Some research shows that whole-body vibration, when performed correctly and under medical supervision when needed, can:

• Reduce back pain

• Improve strength and balance in older adults

• Reduce bone loss

Still, if you want to lose weight and improve fitness, enjoy a healthy diet and include physical activity in your daily routine. If you choose whole-body vibration, remember to do aerobic and strength training activities as well.

And because whole-body vibration can be harmful in some situations, check with your doctor before using it, especially if you're pregnant or have any health problems.



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Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app



Hey guys,



Since we're on the topic of treadmills, has anyone checked out full body

vibration platforms? they are said to be better and more effective than

treadmills, but I don't know much about them unfortunately. I have been

researching the topic and was planning on getting one, sounds like a

really nice peace of equipment to have, but I'd like to get feedback

from those on here that have tried it. are they actually effective at

increasing muscle strength and bone density and whatnot, and do you feel

like you got a decent workout after vibrating on one of these for a

while? How durable are these machines, and which would you recommend?

thanks for your help!

I did go and check out the sole F63 treadmill today. And, assuming that the measurements work out OK, we are getting one. The rails on the side are probably somewhat shorter than some might like. But for me, as a walker, they are fine. There are easily detectable large buttons on the top of both the right and the left rail. These buttons are for controlling to speed for the ones on the right, in the incline for the ones on the left. In addition, it does have the safety feature where you put this square metal thing into an easily detectable place on the consul, and then you attach the other and do your clothing. To the right and left of where the safety clip goes, there are two very large tactile buttons. One is for starred in the other is for Scott. You don’t have to bend down or lean forward or anything to CDs. At least I didn’t. I can’t comment on the Bluetooth, since it was a in-store model. I’m not really holding out too much hope for that, given the really bad reviews for the app. The machine it’s self seems pretty quiet. I could certainly here my feet on the treadmill as I walked.
And when my cited husband tried it, and had the speed turned up higher than I did, I could actually hear the motor. But it certainly didn’t seem all that loud. I’m sure if you could watch TV or read a book or whatever with no problem. The treadmill seems smooth, and it reacts well to pressing of the buttons for the speed and incline. For $900, which was the sale price, I think it’s a good deal.
Mary
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Post by Cristóbal Muñoz
Now you made me check. Looks like they've got it at $1300 with a $75 coupon and I think free assembly.
I know when I grabbed it, I got it at a good deal. I did see it go lower than $900 once, but I missed out on that time and didn't feel like waiting any longer for an extra few more bucks off.
Another thing I should mention, if you get this or any other machine via Amazon and opt for the assembly, make sure to check who Amazon assigns to your order. These people like a lot of other folks are contractors. Not Amazon employees. You can check their ratings and review their previous work. The first guy Amazon assigned to my treadmill assembly had "ok" ratings with a couple of bad reviews, but we did notice that he didn't really have much if any experience putting together workout equipment or treadmills. Mainly shelves, ceiling fans and other stuff like that.
Since it was a significant purchase and my big heavy butt was planning on using it for years to come, I called Amazon and requested they send me someone who had experience with slapping together treadmills instead.
The free assembly was a nice perk, but I still tipped him 30 bucks. It took him over an hour to get everything up and running. Cardboard for days.
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Well, this treadmill is definitely still available. In fact, when I went back to Amazon again a couple of days after making that original post, the treadmill was there. It had been said to be unavailable. So I have no idea what’s going on. But as of last night, it was available on Amazon. Of course, I have no idea how much shipping costs or how you get it put together. But that would be true for any treadmill that you got shipped to you as opposed to having it delivered and set up by a local store.
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Ah that's a shame as it sounded the absolute perfect treadmill.
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Subject: Re: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Very nice review indeed. Apparently that model isn’t made now. They had a link on the review page for the site that has the best price according to them, which turns out to be Amazon. But then amazon said that item is no longer available but there was a newer model. I think that Cristobal is right that seeing it before you buy it is really important.
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I have the Nautilus T618: https://www.treadmillreviews.net/nautilus-t618/
I'm 6-2 FT tall. So for me, the longer and wider belt for me was a necessity. It has a capacity of up to 350 LBS. I fluctuate between 212 and 230 LBS throughout the year depending on the season (holiday eating here we come baby) and usually throw on a 30/40 LBS backpack and hiking boots for the extra calorie burn and resistance. So having an all around sturdier machine was also something I was looking for when I was deciding on what to get.
There are a bunch of machines with similar specs, but what sold me on this was the fact that yes, while there is an LCD display and it is menu driven like with lots of machines isn't ideal if you're blind, the speed and elevation controls are distinguishable tactile buttons instead of a touch screen. Honestly, I just speed up and slow down, increase and decrease the elevation manually and don’t' bother with the programs. The other huge plus is that the safety rails are longer than your average treadmill and there are speed/elevation controls built into them so you don't have to hassle with fiddling feeling around on the front consul and can keep your hands on/around the rails for safety. You can set up to four profiles so that it can remember your weight/height or whatever. My sighted wife just knows to put it back to mine whenever she's done using it.
As I mentioned, I mainly use the manual function and haven't really played with Run Social or those types of apps, but The associated Nautilus app is completely VoiceOver accessible. After my hike/walk, I can synchronize the workout and review my stats. Duration, speed, heart rate, calories burned. My Fitness Pal which it can also pare to is accessible. None of these apps that I know of will actually allow you the ability to control the machine. I'm not aware of any treadmill that does this. At least not in the way we would want it. I guess there's the line of Peloton treadmills that are Internet connected, but it's probably not what you're looking for. That and then you're talking around $4000. I don't know what your budget is. https://www.treadmillreviews.net/peloton-tread/
For me, this works more than fine with the easy to access controls. I just throw on my Aftershokz Trekz Air headphones and blast them timing myself by song. Jog for two, walk for five, full on run for three, etc. Being able to slow down or speed up via the rails is a major plus and convenience.
The T618 is the top model of the Nautilus line with two cheaper options that bump you down on motor power in case you or no one in your family is on the bigger side and don't need/want the higher weight capacity. I waited for it to go on sale and scored a deal via Amazon for $975 with free assembly. You really don’t' want to try putting this thing together. It's a beast. The description talks about foldable for storage, but yeah, once it's put together, it's not going anywhere. It weighs something like 280 LBS. My treadmill is in my garage and will stay there until I move or die.
Whatever you choose, try if you can to get a feel for them at any local retailer that has some models. I was fortunate that I was able to get a feel for this one and some others. It felt over all more solid and there were other things like the way the belt was in relation to the consul. The rail controls are what really sold me on it too. There was a proform I was interested in until I tried it and found that I kept on kicking the motor housing in the front due to the layout. Another I had to lean forward or down to reach the buttons. Others had weird feeling controls that would be hard to distinguish if you're at a jogging/running pace or a straight up touch screen. This sort of stuff is probably more important than app accessibility.
Cristóbal
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Subject: Treadmill with Bluetooth connectivity and accessible app
Hi all,
I am strongly considering the purchase of a treadmill, and I would like to get one that has accessibility for controlling the machine via the iPhone. Sole treadmills right now having a great sale. And they have an app. But it gets universally awful reviews in the App Store. So I’m curious if anybody has any suggestions of something that works well.
Mary
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