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First thoughts on our new iPhone 8
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Sieghard Weitzel
2018-12-05 17:43:54 UTC
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Hi,

After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.

Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.

Take care,
Sieghard
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Reg Sullivan
2018-12-06 03:10:12 UTC
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Hello List:

After meeting Sieghard a few years ago on this list and talking with him by phone my wife and I finally got to meet him in toronto earlier this week.

My opinion of Sieghard was already a tall one because of his tremendous contribution to this list and his broad business and technical knowledge while chatting with him by phone.

Let’s just say we had an enthusiastic lunch with him and his lovely Philippino wife Jackie which all enhanced our friendship.

I also agree that having my IPhone 8 for a week now, it is very snappy and smooth.

I would love to hear anyone’s case suggestions for the Iphone 8 and where you ordered them from.



As a Canadian from Newfoundland I came away from the show today feeling very proud of our Country and how Gander made hosting folks from many corners of the world a fun time.

I’m sure some of those folks hadn’t heard or seen anyone from Africa previously to that experience. I bet it broadened their minds on how all folks can be the same when a crises begins.

We absolutely loved the show and the music was incredible.



Thanks moderator for allowing us to inject a little personal human content into the list and now our friendship will forge ahead because of this list.



Best Regards
.Reg



From: ***@googlegroups.com [mailto:***@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 12:44 PM
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Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hi,



After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.

Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.

Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.

I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.

We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.

The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.

I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.

Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.

Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.



Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.

I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.



Take care,

Sieghard
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Sieghard Weitzel
2018-12-07 07:27:32 UTC
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Thanks for the kind words, Reg, you and Kathy are also fun to be around although your dog is of course much better looking than you *smile*
Glad you enjoyed the show, it definitely made me want to visit the Rock one day.
"The Rock" is Newfoundland for those who don't know.

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Subject: RE: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hello List:
After meeting Sieghard a few years ago on this list and talking with him by phone my wife and I finally got to meet him in toronto earlier this week.
My opinion of Sieghard was already a tall one because of his tremendous contribution to this list and his broad business and technical knowledge while chatting with him by phone.
Let’s just say we had an enthusiastic lunch with him and his lovely Philippino wife Jackie which all enhanced our friendship.
I also agree that having my IPhone 8 for a week now, it is very snappy and smooth.
I would love to hear anyone’s case suggestions for the Iphone 8 and where you ordered them from.

As a Canadian from Newfoundland I came away from the show today feeling very proud of our Country and how Gander made hosting folks from many corners of the world a fun time.
I’m sure some of those folks hadn’t heard or seen anyone from Africa previously to that experience. I bet it broadened their minds on how all folks can be the same when a crises begins.
We absolutely loved the show and the music was incredible.

Thanks moderator for allowing us to inject a little personal human content into the list and now our friendship will forge ahead because of this list.

Best Regards
.Reg


From: ***@googlegroups.com [mailto:***@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 12:44 PM
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Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hi,

After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.

Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.

Take care,
Sieghard


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2018-12-06 03:33:51 UTC
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Sieghard,

You’re getting haptic feedback when you press the home button right?





From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:44 AM
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Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hi,



After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.

Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.

Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.

I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.

We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.

The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.

I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.

Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.

Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.



Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.

I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.



Take care,

Sieghard
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Sieghard Weitzel
2018-12-07 07:16:59 UTC
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Yes, I tried the 3 options regarding how much feedback one gets and while I don't find the differences to be huge I settled on the third which seems to provide the strongest vibration.
I ran into the first issue today which I only call an issue and which really isn't one.
I went to drop off a couple of cash deposits from my business today at my bank, but I had taken my backup headset out of my pack because I didn't need it for my trip and when I stood in front of the bank machine I realized this and of course now with my iPhone 8 I only had the Lightning headset. I haven't bought an adapter yet but may do so just for such situations. I was there about half an hour before the bank opened, but I live in a small town so I knocked on the door and one of the tellers promptly came out and after I told her what my problem was I gave her the three envelopes and she said she'd deposit them. I asked her if she wanted my account number, but she just said that since they know who I am that was not necessary.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:34 PM
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Subject: RE: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Sieghard,
You’re getting haptic feedback when you press the home button right?


From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:44 AM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hi,

After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.

Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.

Take care,
Sieghard


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Hello Sieghard
While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hi,



After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.

Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.

Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.

I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.

We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.

The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.

I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.

Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.

Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.



Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.

I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.



Take care,

Sieghard
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Wayne Merritt
2018-12-06 16:54:48 UTC
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I have the Speck Products Candyshell case for my 8 Plus. They are
available on Amazon for between $15 and $28, depending on what kind
and color of case you get. They are plastic/rubber and do not have a
screen protector. I've been using these for a few years now and have
been quite pleased with their protection. If I were to drop my phone
face down on the ground then I don't know how the screen would hold
up, but you can also get some Tech Armer heavy duty glass screen
protectors for very cheap as well on Amazon for about $7 or $8.

Wayne
Post by Fanus
Hello Sieghard
While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that
I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie
or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is
that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging
but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.
Regards
Fanus
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM
Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8
Hi,
After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade
fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night
and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able
to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the
credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to
verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6
hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up
folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main
bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business,
Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the
stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the
iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I
usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on
Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would
prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The
Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer
coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail
it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is
a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a
basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on
it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the
iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher
up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the
camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more
responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a
little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these
phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.
Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife
really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan
who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with
his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife
and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I
can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the
New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada
which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New
York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to
be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of
incredible generosity, resilience and love.
Take care,
Sieghard
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Sieghard Weitzel
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Hi Fanus,

I think you mistake an external battery or battery case for what I referred to as a wireless charging pad.
What I described is simply a round disk which sort of looks like a slightly thicker coaster like what you would use on a table to put your glass on it. Said pad is plugged into a wall outlet via the provided cable and/or adapter or some simply use any Micro USB cable and 5 Watt wall plug. You then put your iPhone on top of this round disk/pad and it will charge wirelessly, i.e. you no longer plug in the Lightning cable. Of course this has to be an iPhone 8 or above since the iPhone 8 was the first one to support wireless charging, at least I think it was and that the iPhone 7 still has to be plugged in. You can of course also plug the iPhone 8 or any of the new 10 models in using the familiar Lightning cable, but since they don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack any more, using a wireless charging pad is one easy way to deal with the problem of using your phone with a wired headset and charging it at the same time. The phone charges as it lies on the pad and it leaves the Lightning port free for the headset. Alternatively you could buy a splitter which plugs into the Lightning port and then has two Lightning ends, one to plug in the charge cable and one to plug in a headset. They also exist with one Lightning end for the charge cable and one 3.5mm jack for a standard headphone. However, unless you buy a no-name splitter on Amazon the Belkin models cost $40 or something like that and you can buy a nice wireless charging pad for that.

From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:46 AM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hello Sieghard
While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hi,

After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.

Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.

Take care,
Sieghard


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Fanus
2018-12-08 08:32:56 UTC
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Hello Sieghard
O gosh, yes, I misunderstood you totally. I am also curious to know why you decided to go for the iPhone 8 and not for one of the X models, like the XR. I am due for an upgrade in January and I think it is time to upgrade my iPhone 5S, so I am interested to know your way of thinking.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:25 AM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hi Fanus,



I think you mistake an external battery or battery case for what I referred to as a wireless charging pad.

What I described is simply a round disk which sort of looks like a slightly thicker coaster like what you would use on a table to put your glass on it. Said pad is plugged into a wall outlet via the provided cable and/or adapter or some simply use any Micro USB cable and 5 Watt wall plug. You then put your iPhone on top of this round disk/pad and it will charge wirelessly, i.e. you no longer plug in the Lightning cable. Of course this has to be an iPhone 8 or above since the iPhone 8 was the first one to support wireless charging, at least I think it was and that the iPhone 7 still has to be plugged in. You can of course also plug the iPhone 8 or any of the new 10 models in using the familiar Lightning cable, but since they don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack any more, using a wireless charging pad is one easy way to deal with the problem of using your phone with a wired headset and charging it at the same time. The phone charges as it lies on the pad and it leaves the Lightning port free for the headset. Alternatively you could buy a splitter which plugs into the Lightning port and then has two Lightning ends, one to plug in the charge cable and one to plug in a headset. They also exist with one Lightning end for the charge cable and one 3.5mm jack for a standard headphone. However, unless you buy a no-name splitter on Amazon the Belkin models cost $40 or something like that and you can buy a nice wireless charging pad for that.



From: ***@googlegroups.com <***@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:46 AM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hello Sieghard

While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.

Regards

Fanus





From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM

To: ***@googlegroups.com

Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hi,



After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.

Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.

Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.

I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.

We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.

The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.

I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.

Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.

Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.



Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.

I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.



Take care,

Sieghard
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Hello Sieghard, will the charge pad work through a case?

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Subject: Re: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hello Sieghard
O gosh, yes, I misunderstood you totally. I am also curious to know why you decided to go for the iPhone 8 and not for one of the X models, like the XR. I am due for an upgrade in January and I think it is time to upgrade my iPhone 5S, so I am interested to know your way of thinking.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
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Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:25 AM
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Hi Fanus,
 
I think you mistake an external battery or battery case for what I referred to as a wireless charging pad.
What I described is simply a round disk which sort of looks like a slightly thicker coaster like what you would use on a table to put your glass on it. Said pad is plugged into a wall outlet via the provided cable and/or adapter or some simply use any Micro USB cable and 5 Watt wall plug. You then put your iPhone on top of this round disk/pad and it will charge wirelessly, i.e. you no longer plug in the Lightning cable. Of course this has to be an iPhone 8 or above since the iPhone 8 was the first one to support wireless charging, at least I think it was and that the iPhone 7 still has to be plugged in. You can of course also plug the iPhone 8 or any of the new 10 models in using the familiar Lightning cable, but since they don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack any more, using a wireless charging pad is one easy way to deal with the problem of using your phone with a wired headset and charging it at the same time. The phone charges as it lies on the pad and it leaves the Lightning port free for the headset. Alternatively you could buy a splitter which plugs into the Lightning port and then has two Lightning ends, one to plug in the charge cable and one to plug in a headset. They also exist with one Lightning end for the charge cable and one 3.5mm jack for a standard headphone. However, unless you buy a no-name splitter on Amazon the Belkin models cost $40 or something like that and you can buy a nice wireless charging pad for that.
 
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Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:46 AM
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Hello Sieghard
While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM
To: ***@googlegroups.com
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Hi,
 
After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.
 
Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.
 
Take care,
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I'm not Sieghard but yes you can charge your phone with a wireless charger and a case.

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Post by Robert Wright
Hello Sieghard, will the charge pad work through a case?
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From: Fanus
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8
Hello Sieghard
O gosh, yes, I misunderstood you totally. I am also curious to know why you decided to go for the iPhone 8 and not for one of the X models, like the XR. I am due for an upgrade in January and I think it is time to upgrade my iPhone 5S, so I am interested to know your way of thinking.
Regards
Fanus
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8
Hi Fanus,
I think you mistake an external battery or battery case for what I referred to as a wireless charging pad.
What I described is simply a round disk which sort of looks like a slightly thicker coaster like what you would use on a table to put your glass on it. Said pad is plugged into a wall outlet via the provided cable and/or adapter or some simply use any Micro USB cable and 5 Watt wall plug. You then put your iPhone on top of this round disk/pad and it will charge wirelessly, i.e. you no longer plug in the Lightning cable. Of course this has to be an iPhone 8 or above since the iPhone 8 was the first one to support wireless charging, at least I think it was and that the iPhone 7 still has to be plugged in. You can of course also plug the iPhone 8 or any of the new 10 models in using the familiar Lightning cable, but since they don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack any more, using a wireless charging pad is one easy way to deal with the problem of using your phone with a wired headset and charging it at the same time. The phone charges as it lies on the pad and it leaves the Lightning port free for the headset. Alternatively you could buy a splitter which plugs into the Lightning port and then has two Lightning ends, one to plug in the charge cable and one to plug in a headset. They also exist with one Lightning end for the charge cable and one 3.5mm jack for a standard headphone. However, unless you buy a no-name splitter on Amazon the Belkin models cost $40 or something like that and you can buy a nice wireless charging pad for that.
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8
Hello Sieghard
While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.
Regards
Fanus
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM
Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8
Hi,
After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.
Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.
Take care,
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So, I had the 8 from launch last year until the Xs came out this year. Honestly the 8 with touch id was more efficient. It’s a lot easier to just touch the home button to unlock the phone .. double tap for the app switcher and such. On the Xs the gestures and such are fine, it’s just not as fast. Also, I find I’m picking up my phone a lot to have it unlocked with the Face id. I’m not saying the phone isn’t as fast, I’m saying my use isn’t as efficient. Maybe as time progresses it will, got to remember the old way was done for 8 or 9 years
.



I would suggest going somewhere and try one out. That is really the only way you are going to know if it will work for you.



On the battery charging question, as long as the case isn’t real thick they should work. I like the Apple branded cases, and they of course work.









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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 9:40 AM
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I'm not Sieghard but yes you can charge your phone with a wireless charger and a case.

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Hello Sieghard, will the charge pad work through a case?



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From: Fanus <mailto:***@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 1:33 AM
To: ***@googlegroups.com <mailto:***@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hello Sieghard

O gosh, yes, I misunderstood you totally. I am also curious to know why you decided to go for the iPhone 8 and not for one of the X models, like the XR. I am due for an upgrade in January and I think it is time to upgrade my iPhone 5S, so I am interested to know your way of thinking.

Regards

Fanus





From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:25 AM

To: ***@googlegroups.com <mailto:***@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hi Fanus,



I think you mistake an external battery or battery case for what I referred to as a wireless charging pad.

What I described is simply a round disk which sort of looks like a slightly thicker coaster like what you would use on a table to put your glass on it. Said pad is plugged into a wall outlet via the provided cable and/or adapter or some simply use any Micro USB cable and 5 Watt wall plug. You then put your iPhone on top of this round disk/pad and it will charge wirelessly, i.e. you no longer plug in the Lightning cable. Of course this has to be an iPhone 8 or above since the iPhone 8 was the first one to support wireless charging, at least I think it was and that the iPhone 7 still has to be plugged in. You can of course also plug the iPhone 8 or any of the new 10 models in using the familiar Lightning cable, but since they don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack any more, using a wireless charging pad is one easy way to deal with the problem of using your phone with a wired headset and charging it at the same time. The phone charges as it lies on the pad and it leaves the Lightning port free for the headset. Alternatively you could buy a splitter which plugs into the Lightning port and then has two Lightning ends, one to plug in the charge cable and one to plug in a headset. They also exist with one Lightning end for the charge cable and one 3.5mm jack for a standard headphone. However, unless you buy a no-name splitter on Amazon the Belkin models cost $40 or something like that and you can buy a nice wireless charging pad for that.



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Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:46 AM
To: ***@googlegroups.com <mailto:***@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hello Sieghard

While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.

Regards

Fanus





From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM

To: ***@googlegroups.com <mailto:***@googlegroups.com>

Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8



Hi,



After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.

Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.

Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.

I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.

We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.

The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.

I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.

Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.

Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.



Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.

I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.



Take care,

Sieghard
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I use the assistive touch virtual button to accomplish some of these tasks on my XR along with the reachability feature since I like to use it as a one handed device wherever possible. Face ID isn’t all that, but alas, that’s how it is now. I did get a wireless charging stand for my office desk

Wireless Charging Stand RAVPower 2 Coils 7.5W Qi-certified Compatible iPhone XS MAX XR X 8 & 8 Plus with HyperAir, 10W Qi for Galaxy S9 S9+ Note 8 All Qi-Enabled Devices (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079C1QLCR/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_KLadCb9FR62QY

This pad stands upright as opposed to laying flat. For me while I’m working at my computer it’s more convenient this way since I just have to slightly turn my face towards the phone as if I were looking at it to unlock it instead of leaning forward or grabbing the phone to then do the scan.

Seems like one of those insignificant type of details until you have to do it countless times throughout the day.

Anyway, this particular model is selling for $35 right now. I grabbed it for $20 during the black Friday weekend, but I’m sure it or other similar pads like it will go on sale again or be had at a cheaper price.

I’ll likely look for a wireless padd that lays flat to put on my nightstand, but for my workdesk, upright works well and adds a little more convenience during the day.



Cristóbal



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So, I had the 8 from launch last year until the Xs came out this year. Honestly the 8 with touch id was more efficient. It’s a lot easier to just touch the home button to unlock the phone .. double tap for the app switcher and such. On the Xs the gestures and such are fine, it’s just not as fast. Also, I find I’m picking up my phone a lot to have it unlocked with the Face id. I’m not saying the phone isn’t as fast, I’m saying my use isn’t as efficient. Maybe as time progresses it will, got to remember the old way was done for 8 or 9 years
.



I would suggest going somewhere and try one out. That is really the only way you are going to know if it will work for you.



On the battery charging question, as long as the case isn’t real thick they should work. I like the Apple branded cases, and they of course work.









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I'm not Sieghard but yes you can charge your phone with a wireless charger and a case.

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Hello Sieghard, will the charge pad work through a case?



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Hello Sieghard

O gosh, yes, I misunderstood you totally. I am also curious to know why you decided to go for the iPhone 8 and not for one of the X models, like the XR. I am due for an upgrade in January and I think it is time to upgrade my iPhone 5S, so I am interested to know your way of thinking.

Regards

Fanus





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Hi Fanus,



I think you mistake an external battery or battery case for what I referred to as a wireless charging pad.

What I described is simply a round disk which sort of looks like a slightly thicker coaster like what you would use on a table to put your glass on it. Said pad is plugged into a wall outlet via the provided cable and/or adapter or some simply use any Micro USB cable and 5 Watt wall plug. You then put your iPhone on top of this round disk/pad and it will charge wirelessly, i.e. you no longer plug in the Lightning cable. Of course this has to be an iPhone 8 or above since the iPhone 8 was the first one to support wireless charging, at least I think it was and that the iPhone 7 still has to be plugged in. You can of course also plug the iPhone 8 or any of the new 10 models in using the familiar Lightning cable, but since they don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack any more, using a wireless charging pad is one easy way to deal with the problem of using your phone with a wired headset and charging it at the same time. The phone charges as it lies on the pad and it leaves the Lightning port free for the headset. Alternatively you could buy a splitter which plugs into the Lightning port and then has two Lightning ends, one to plug in the charge cable and one to plug in a headset. They also exist with one Lightning end for the charge cable and one 3.5mm jack for a standard headphone. However, unless you buy a no-name splitter on Amazon the Belkin models cost $40 or something like that and you can buy a nice wireless charging pad for that.



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Hello Sieghard

While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.

Regards

Fanus





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Hi,



After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.

Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.

Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.

I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.

We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.

The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.

I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.

Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.

Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.



Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.

I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.



Take care,

Sieghard
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Sieghard Weitzel
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Because the carrier we use here in Canada, Koodo, had a killer deal on the 8. We only had to pay $150 Canadian up front and now for 2 years $15 is added to our monthly $49 bill. This means we pay $150 + $360 which works out to $510 in total. The same iPhone 8 64 Gb if I had bought it directly from Apple at the regular price would have cost $820 which is $310 more.
They did also offer the XR and XS, but the XR was $550 up front and then $360 over 2 years, a total of $910. This is still a bit cheaper than buying it at full price, but for my wife and myself that would have been an extra $800 and I primarily was after wireless charging, better waterproof rating and of course it's two generations newer than our 6S/6S Plus in terms of processor and so on. We are quite happy with the iPhon e8, it will be our phone probably for at least 2 years or maybe 3 until we buy the next iPhone with 5G support and whatever else it will have in 2 or 3 years. I just read that the new Snapdragon 855 processor which will be in all the upcoming 2019 Android high-end phones supports fingerprint reading anywhere on the screen. This means if implemented and working correctly you don't need a home button but you can put your finger anywhere on the screen and it will read it and unlock your phone. I have a suspicion that despite Apple's focus on Face Id this maybe a feature which could be introduced in iPhones in 2 or 3 years. Apple is ot often the fastest when it comes to such stuff so I doubt it will be there next September, but I could see it in 2020 or 2021.


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Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 12:33 AM
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Hello Sieghard
O gosh, yes, I misunderstood you totally. I am also curious to know why you decided to go for the iPhone 8 and not for one of the X models, like the XR. I am due for an upgrade in January and I think it is time to upgrade my iPhone 5S, so I am interested to know your way of thinking.
Regards
Fanus


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Hi Fanus,

I think you mistake an external battery or battery case for what I referred to as a wireless charging pad.
What I described is simply a round disk which sort of looks like a slightly thicker coaster like what you would use on a table to put your glass on it. Said pad is plugged into a wall outlet via the provided cable and/or adapter or some simply use any Micro USB cable and 5 Watt wall plug. You then put your iPhone on top of this round disk/pad and it will charge wirelessly, i.e. you no longer plug in the Lightning cable. Of course this has to be an iPhone 8 or above since the iPhone 8 was the first one to support wireless charging, at least I think it was and that the iPhone 7 still has to be plugged in. You can of course also plug the iPhone 8 or any of the new 10 models in using the familiar Lightning cable, but since they don't have a 3.5mm headphone jack any more, using a wireless charging pad is one easy way to deal with the problem of using your phone with a wired headset and charging it at the same time. The phone charges as it lies on the pad and it leaves the Lightning port free for the headset. Alternatively you could buy a splitter which plugs into the Lightning port and then has two Lightning ends, one to plug in the charge cable and one to plug in a headset. They also exist with one Lightning end for the charge cable and one 3.5mm jack for a standard headphone. However, unless you buy a no-name splitter on Amazon the Belkin models cost $40 or something like that and you can buy a nice wireless charging pad for that.

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Hello Sieghard
While you were mentioning the charging pads my problem has always been that I could not know the charge state of external battery packs. Has the Mophie or Balkin some sort of indication for a blind person? Maybe the problem is that I do not know how to use these devices properly in respect of charging but the few I ttried did not have a long lifespan.
Regards
Fanus


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Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:43 PM
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Subject: First thoughts on our new iPhone 8

Hi,

After returning from a week in Toronto where my wife and I attended a trade fare and visited with a friend of mine for a few days we returned last night and found our new iPhone 8's which arrived during our absence.
Using my iPhone 6S Plus to set up the iPhone 8 worked flawlessly, I was able to scan the code and all the settings including Wi-Fi password and the credit cards I had set up for Apple Pay got transferred. I only had to verify the cards by entering each card's 3-digit card verification code.
Apart from that I did choose to set up as a new phone and spend about 6 hours downloading all my apps, putting them in the order I want, setting up folders and what is more, signing into all my home automation apps, my main bank app, the bank apps for my Visa and Mastercard, PayPal business, Facebook, Google, Audible including re-downloading my books and all the stuff I use.
I must say setting up as a new phone if you are a fairly heavy user of the iPhone with all these type of apps is definitely a bit of a pain, but I usually find it is worth it with a brand-new phone.
We also received the Mophie and Belkin wireless charging pads I ordered on Black Friday, my wife likes the Mophie one and I must say I probably would prefer it as well, but I'm not sure if I will send the Belkin back. The Mophie is quite noticeably smaller in diameter, has a bit of a softer coating and it comes with a wall charger and uses a Micro USB cable.
The Belkin uses a proprietary AC adapter so should it for some reason fail it would be a lot harder to replace than a Micro USB cable.
I also ordered two more less expensive wireless chargers from Amazon, one is a stand, I'll see how they work. Both the Belkin and Mophie work with a basic case on and seem to e not super picky as to how you put the phone on it as long as it is reasonably centred.
Unfortunately we had a number of 6S cases and none of them work for the iPhone 8. They fit just fine, but the camera lens on the iPhone 6S is higher up in the corner of the phone and all the cases we have half cover the camera lens of the iPhone 8.
Apart from this the phones are very snappy and definitely feel a bit more responsive than my wife's 6S and my 6S Plus, the virtual home button takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's fine and I like the fact that these phones are much more waterproof than my 6S Plus.

Thanks, Reg and Kathy, for meeting us for lunch, you are lucky, Reg, my wife really wanted to run off with your new black lab.
I hope you enjoy the show today, for reference, this refers to Reg Sullivan who is on this list, going to see the musical Come from Away together with his wife today. Apart from my friend driving us to Niagara Falls, my wife and I went to see this musical on Sunday and if anybody has a chance to go I can only recommend it, it's an awesome show. The topic is 9 11, but not the New Yor tragedy, this is about the town of Gander, Newfoundland, Canada which has a population of a little over 9,000 and during this attack on New York 38 large planes were forced to land there and about 7,000 people had to be sheltered and fed there for 3 days. It's a story of loss but also of incredible generosity, resilience and love.

Take care,
Sieghard


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